What Will Be Lost..And Found: FRINGE On The Beginning Of The End


Fox has released a new video featuring the Fringe cast talking about the final few episodes of the season, interspersed with a variety of new and old clips.

Watch The Beginning of the End after the jump. (contains spoilers).

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  1. KLA says

    Wow- Lance Reddick said that we will know which universe survives by the end of the season. Assuming that he is right or is telling the truth, that fact is HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy Smokes.

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    • says

      Good startingpoint for new viewers. During Lowatus, if everybody lends his dvd’s to friends and get them hooked on Fringe, it’s made easy from S4E01 on, to join in. :)

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  2. Still Real1 ! says

    Grey team ? … i don’t like her … what ever she may do .

    One universe will survive … but … one soul will be missed !

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    • Dessy says

      Seriously. She cannot redeem herself to me. In fact, I think Bloodline made me hate her even more.

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      • Still Real1 ! says

        Am not kidding , that character is just to tear the things apart ! nothing can change that for me . i hope they will do for her a good byebye and in s4 we can go for a new things .

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        • KLA says

          For some reason I can’t help but feel a little sympathy for Fauxlivia because in a sense she is a victim here as well. Certainly not as much as Olivia, but a victim nonetheless of Walternates plans. Now, she has a baby that the father knows nothing about and Walternate does not really care if Peter is killed. That is not a position I would want to be in in, and therefore, I feel for her.

          Now, if it came down to her or Olivia, Olivia survives and she dies for sure.

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        • Still Real1 ! says

          Redeeming not redeeming …. she will not redeem and bring back that innocent which she killed , and sorry Walternat wasn’t there to force her to kill him , she did it because she is without brain and selfish , giving her a baby doesn’t mean she is a sympathy character .. sorry not me .

          Walternat has every right to do what ever in the blue !! we didn’t know what Walter did do to their side . Walternat motive is understandable but this none sense no way ! no way .

          And i will be even more than bitter1 soon enough !

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          • KLA says

            You are too funny Still Real-1. Everytime you mention the innocent that Faulivia killed (the deaf guy) I laugh. That really got to you!!!!

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            • Still Real1 ! says

              Not to mention the innocent woman at the station thooooo !

              I like to do jokes :D … but sometimes i really mean every word !

              :)

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              • KLA says

                I almost forgot about her!!!!!! She also killed a shapeshifter (the one she threw out the window). Does that count too??? Peter said that they aren’t human, so I am not sure!!!

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                • Still Real1 ! says

                  LOL ! shapeshifter !! haha …. Well , i did a joke that Peter and Faux had something in common = killing the shapeshifters lol , we have a whole ep named by the shapeshifter ep 4 I think .. yes ep 4 , Faux looking less of the shapeshifters and Peter looking to them as not human . what a nice couple !!

                  Don’t let me start on Faux … am waiting the right time to start on her soon ! just God will maybe save Peter from me !
                  :)

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          • number six says

            Come on! She’s lactating. What else do you want from her to make her sympathetic in your eyes? ;-)

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            • Still Real1 ! says

              I forget to add .. even if she dies .. that will not delete what she did and the damage what she will left !

              No chance for her with me .

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              • KLA says

                That is right Still Real-1. The horse is already out of the barn, and little PB is not going anywhere. Peter is going to have to deal with the baby one way or the other.

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  3. vladavvv says

    Guys, no offense, but Olivia and Fauxlivia are actually the SAME person. And IMO it’s a bit…. weird to love on so much and to hate other…. I mean, seriously? Let’s be adults. Not just.. fun-girls.

    WoW! This interview is great! I can’t even….

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    • Still Real1 ! says

      No offense , but no they are not the same .. one is there since S1 and opened the show she is a main character , the other one is mess and none sense and not even support character !

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    • KristaN says

      They should be basically the same person, but I find it very difficult to see the similarities. Our Olivia is such a wonderfully complex character, while Altliv seems to be free of any personality whatsoever.

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      • says

        You have to see both characters as an identical twin, but also as the same person. In biology, when cells divide and multiply, during pregnancy you can get a twin (or a triplet).

        Now, use the same biology on an univeral scale. During Walters handling back in 1985, the started up an identical universe. It looks and feels the same, but is slightly different, as is with identical twins.

        So, it’s not about hate one vs. love the other, but more a question of: how to unite and bring balance in universes and people alike.

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        • Still Real1 ! says

          Twins had different souls , “Amber 31422″ , twins but different than each other , both can look alike , and as how Blair said : people alike but not person to person .

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    • mlj102 says

      “Guys, no offense, but Olivia and Fauxlivia are actually the SAME person.”

      I’m not trying to be insulting or anything, but a comment like this suggests that you have missed one of the biggest themes from the entire season: the theme of identity. A huge idea that they have emphasized this season is that there is something in everyone — call it their soul, if you like — that makes them unique. Olivia and Altlivia may look the same, they may have similar talents or traits, but they are by no means the same person. That’s why it’s such a big deal that they switched places. That’s why Olivia was so disturbed and unsettled when she returned and found out about Altlivia living her life. That’s why she had feelings of inferiority and why she had to reevaluate her own life and question her own worth. She has insisted over and over again that Altlivia was not her, and she was completely right. They may look alike and may be close to the same person, but their experiences have shaped them into two different people, and I feel it would be shortsighted to claim that they are the same person. I see no reason why it would be “weird” to love one while disliking the other. Of course if that’s how you feel, then there’s no problem with that. But I don’t think you can claim it’s unreasonable or childish for others to see how they’re different and to prefer one over the other.

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      • says

        @mlj102 … Makes me think of the opening song from the Patty Duke Show
        from the 60′s. And yes, I am old enough to remember that show. LOL!

        …But they’re cousins, identical cousins all the way;
        one pair of matching bookends, different as night and day.
        Where Cathy adores a minuet,
        the Ballets Russes, and crêpes Suzette;
        our Patty loves to rock ‘n’ roll, a hot dog makes her lose control — what a wild duet!
        Still they’re cousins, identical cousins and you’ll find
        they laugh alike, they walk alike, at times they even talk alike.
        You can lose your mind … when cousins are two of a kind!

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  4. Megan says

    I don’t mind Altivia that much. Yes I know she killed innocent people. But I watch Dexter for goodness sake! How can I hate her character and love Dexter?! Sure he ONLY kills gulity people, but he still kills people. And I suppose Altivia felt she had to do those thing. I’m not excusing her, I’m just trying to see it from her prespective.This is just opinion so no one yell at me please!
    But anyway I digress. I don’t mind Altlivia because I like Anna Torv and seeing her playing another version of her character.

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  5. Nika says

    I don;t think any of the universes will be destroyed, seems like both will survive so they can continue telling stories on both sides (they seem to be excited about that, I’m not a really big fan of Over There stories; Over There is good for supporting main show, not becoming a show of it;s own ;)). What I’m afraid of is that they are actually going to kill Olivia, they still have Altlivia and she could take over her place. And I’ll agree with those ppl saying Olive and Altlive are different ppl, for me there is a huge difference between those two. Olive thinks for herself, acts for what she thinks is just or important, she’s the drive. Altlive is a god damn passive character, with minimal input of her own. She just follows orders, does not think – she’s being pushed into everything like a muppet. so no, for me they are not the same ;D.

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  6. says

    B-I-G things!!! Where are the remains of Newton? Are there other shapeshifters that will become active? What would Bell do? Will Olivia and Altlivia become one character again, as do Walter/Walternate, Brandon/Brandonate, and so on? Will we get to see yellow submarines after blue airlines and red zeppelins? Is one of the verses an afterlife? Are Observers angels?

    TV history in the making! Where will you be when it happens?

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  7. Smgdesignz says

    People say Bolivia is a bad person and part of the reason is she killed shapeshifters. Remember – Olivia killed one too in The Man from the Other Side. I’m not a huge fan of Bolivia as a person, but she and Olivia are cut from the same cloth.

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    • KLA says

      I think Bolivia is bad, not because she killed a shapeshifter, but because she offed the deaf guy in the apartment (the poor sap never saw it coming) and killed that lady in the train station when she was trying to get away. And worse, she scammed poor Walter with food, she stole Olivia’s man, and got knocked up at the same time!!! Oh yeah, she cheated on poor Frank and lied to Lincoln and Scarlie. She is no good!!!!

      Olivia, by contrast, has only killed by necessity, and never just to save her own ass or to get away. And, the shapeshifters aren’t really human, so I am not sure they count!!!

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  8. nathan says

    It would have been interesting if Fringe was told from Red from the beginning. I think Fauxlivia was a product of her circumstances.

    You are on a Mission to save us from a World that is out to get us. We’re in a war. Don’t trust them etc etc etc.

    I’ve never much liked her, but I haven’t hated her…and I understand where she is coming from.

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  9. T says

    I personally love Altlivia and believe here actions were justified based on her frame of mind at the time.

    We need to remember:
    1. Innocent casualties are a part of war – an unfortunate part but a part none-the-less. For Altlivia that is exactly what this was – WAR. She was told by her superior that the other side was full of monsters trying to invade and destroy her world. She even witnessed their invasion! She was given a mission to accomplish no matter the cost. Her world and everyone she loved was at stake. I thought the writers and Torv did a good job at showing that Altlivia was uncomfortable killing.

    2. There seems to be a lot of simpathy around for the shape-shifters and negativity toward Altlivia and Peter for treating them in a sub-human way. Before we get to touchy feely and simpathetic toward these shape shifters, lets remember that every one of them has killed at least one (maybe multiple) innocent people. They had to kill to take over the body they inhabbit.

    We call the blue universe our universe – so from our own perspectives we our baised. You can’t blame her for siding with her universe, at least with the knowledge she had at the time.

    We need to view things through Altlivia’s eyes. Would we have done anything differently? If the lives of people we loved were based on the success / failure of our mission would we have been less ruthless?

    Sorry for the long post but I felt I needed to stick up for one of my favorite characters.

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  10. Nick says

    I think the fact that some people hate Altolivia and love Olivia, is a testament to the acting skills of Anna Torv. Its pretty cool if you ask me.

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    • Still Real1 ! says

      I think Anna torv acted both characters with excellent and amazing way , and did what writers were wanting ,

      Faux and Walternat are in the same category , if you will like and justify what Faux did .. you have to justify what Walternat will do IMO , you don’t know what Walter did to the other side !

      All what we know that Walter want to save one life at the cost of billions of people and that’s what Carla did say .

      Walternat point of view that the blue did ruin their side and kidnapped his son … and his son no longer his son any more … talking about victims and casualties .. Walternat considered his son one victim must die in order to save his world .

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      • T says

        I’m having a hard time understanding your train of thought so I apologize upfront if I have missunderstood you.

        “Faux and Walternat are in the same category , if you will like and justify what Faux did .. you have to justify what Walternat will do IMO , you don’t know what Walter did to the other side !”

        Altlivia and Walternate are by no means in the same category. Don’t get me wrong, I feel for Walternate and he is definitely a victim…but his response to being a victim is all wrong. They are different because Walternate knows his universe was “attacked” by one man (his alternate version – our Walter) but is willing to destroy and place guilt on an entire universe. Altlivia on the other hand was told by Walternate that everyone in our universe was a monster with the intent of destroying her universe. They are different because Walternate is lying as a means to an end where as Altlivia was being lied to.

        They are clearly not in the same category. That being said the writers have made clear that the primary guilty party in this whole mess was our Walter.

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        • Still Real1 ! says

          Walternat is not dealing now by who’s good who’s evil , walternat is knowing that the natural is seeking a balance , the one which did umbalance the natural = Walter .. by crossing over there and created a hole between the universes because of one damn life !

          We are in the spoiler so it’s safe to say … Fauxlivia … ( I can’t like her what ever she may do ! ) Fauxlivia in s2 finale was told that they are at war with another universe .. people just as them but not peaceful , all the damage in her universe was from these people from the other universe . Walternat said the truth …. the truth is Walter is the responsible of all the mess in the other side .. and i can say not only Walter .. Bell too did help Walter and we don’t even know who else did the same thing .

          So , Why Faux didn’t think or even ask why they did that ? .. ok she is a solder and solder is following orders .. ok .. i understand .. so her mission to go to the other side ( over here ) and take over a life of her version .. killing of innocent people which is now she seeing them same as hers ?

          Sorry i can’t get to her , she killed that man in Olivia’s house , played on every one in the blue including Peter , taking advantage of Peter’s feelings for Olivia to manipulate him and WRITING a DIARY about her journey over here BUT didn’t WRITE ANY THING about the weapon ???? REALLY ? and add to that in ep6 when she was telling the shapsshifter no more to hurt the people over here .. just to kill a innocent woman from over here in ep 8 ????????

          and For now .. they are letting her saying that Walternat convinced her to steal a piece of weapon because this piece was going to destroy the other side ?????????????? call me crazy if you like but am not buying any word from all of that …. if they are at war and you
          know your enemy is having a piece which can ruin them .. you will steal it from them ??????????????????????????????? really ?

          and you want from me to think that faxu can be like Olivia ???? Faux without brain or think . Sorry .

          when i said she is as the same category with Walternat i mean yes her character was clear as a right hand for Walternat and she did exactly what Walternat wants … suddenly now we suppose to be sympathized with her cuz he had a baby and now she is thinking about what she had done ?

          and forget what she had done over here and how she was putting Olivia in danger ? and to add .. she asked Peter that if he has to choose one side he sure will save over here … but Peter said to her no there must be another way .

          And now .. we suppose to be liking her and transform her to hero ???? no chance for her with me ..

          :)

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  11. T says

    “Walternat said the truth …. the truth is Walter is the responsible of all the mess in the other side .. and i can say not only Walter .. Bell too did help Walter and we don’t even know who else did the same thing .”
    Walternate did not tell the truth. He told Altlivia the people from the other side were monsters in our skin and not to be trusted. Bell did not help Walter cross (although the writers implyed he would not have stopped Walter).

    “ok she is a solder and solder is following orders .. ok .. i understand”
    Kind of making my point.

    “killing of innocent people which is now she seeing them same as hers”
    Walternate (untruthfully) warned her they would try to gain her trust. As far as she knew, they were acting as she would expect. It took time for her trust in our universe to elevate above her trust in her superior (Walternat). We should expect that.

    “BUT didn’t WRITE ANY THING about the weapon ???? REALLY ?”
    Not sure what this has to do with the topic at hand but do we weren’t told everything she wrote in her journal. Just because we (the audience) weren’t told doesn’t mean there weren’t mission related entries.

    “and you want from me to think that faxu can be like Olivia ????”
    Actually…no. In one sense they are the same person but in another sense they are very different, made so by their different experiences.

    “when i said she is as the same category with Walternat i mean yes her character was clear as a right hand for Walternat and she did exactly what Walternat wants … suddenly now we suppose to be sympathized with her cuz he had a baby and now she is thinking about what she had done ?”
    Of course she did what Walternate wanted…just as our Olivia would do what Broyles wants. She was obeying orders b/c she had no reason not to. It’s just now that she is realizing maybe Walternate is wrong.

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