VIDEO: FRINGE Executive Producers Talk Aftermath 3.15


In this latest video from Fox, Fringe EPs Jeff Pinkner and J.H. Wyman talk about the notion of fate in the aftermath of 3.15 – “Subject 13“.

Head past the jump for the clip. UPDATED with hi-res version.

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Thanks to lena, marcus and theresa for the heads-up.

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  1. AnTo says

    This sounds very cheesy to me, teh fate thing

    Looks like they have no consideration for the actors playing Olivia and peter, who both do not want this ; they should have listend to Anna Torv, keep that till the very end if necessary.
    Olivia had a man much older then her in the pilot, was happy and in love, and now for fate’s sake she must be scared to start something with peter.
    Not very nice for the character and the actress, and Alt-livia has been reduced as plotdevice having a baby. Anna clearly expected something different last year.
    Pity the only listen to Noble (he wanted a mistress as Walternate and got one), and apparently read blogs and forums on the internet. Must have been the fanfiction of Polivia, see episode 11 what Olivia had to read out loud.

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    • Dylan says

      Jackson was quite vocal about it too.

      I agree, why must the pair be engaged in a relationship? How generic and how contrived it appears. The ‘family’ idea was a much stronger concept.

      No offense to the writers too, but they didn’t really convey the idea of fate very well in ‘subject 13′. Normally, the idea should be clear, however, I’m sure that outside of it being mentioned, no one would link those events to fate.

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      • Annette says

        Dylan, I agree with you. There’s a connection “fate” between the three, but I felt it had to do with their roles in “saving” the universe – not a “love” story. I’d much rather focus on the characters, fringe events and freakin’ multi-verse storyline. And while I do like the actress that plays Walternate’s love interest, the scenes between her character and Walternate did not further the story. Sigh…

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    • Count Screwloose says

      The John Scott business has always been problematic for me, too. That was a very different Olivia! It’s almost as if you have to forget who the character was then in order for this new sullen, depressed and uncommunicative Olivia to make sense. Yes, we were always supposed to sense a streak of suppressed emotion there (I was never on the “Torv can’t act! Throw Torv out!” bandwagon), but the old Olivia makes Fauxlivia look like the new Olivia! Not to mention that this is a hard right from the whole “Olivia-as-Warrior/Guardian/Whatever” thing that seemed to be shaping up. Now she’s a miserable crying towel.

      I’m with Dylan inasmuch as I always liked the idea of Walter/Peter/Olivia as a strange dysfunctional family. Then again, I expect some surprises down the road where certain family trees are concerned…

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    • number six says

      Really? Maybe, since the story belongs to the creators, whenever the actors say something against the storyline they have no consideration for the writers, instead?

      By the way, I don’t really think this is the case, I think they have the right to have their own opinions and preferences and to express them. In Anna Torv’s case, her opinion has evolved and she’s now a total P/O shipper. Josh Jackson’s opinion seems to be pretty much the same in that respect. So what? Their job is not to decide about the story.

      “Pity the only listen to Noble (he wanted a mistress as Walternate and got one)”

      And you know that how? Walternate having a mistress is not so important for the overarching story. However, I highly doubt they would have complied to a wish similar to: “I think Walter should start hating Peter from now on” or “I think Walter and Walternate should work for world peace via interdimensional typewriter”. In fact, Jasika Nicole expressed a wish to sing in Brown Betty and the producers were okay with it. Josh Jackson didn’t want to sing and he didn’t. I suppose Anna Torv has expressed similar wishes, we don’t know of, that have been conceded.

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      • alexis says

        yeah, i agree with you. besides, the writers know where the story is going, i think they have a pretty clear idea of what is going to happen right until the end of the show (at least regarding the main plot lines), so what the actors think wouldn’t make them change their minds and decide to tell a completely different story.

        as for listening to noble, god, i wish they hadn’t! lol. i hated that scene!!

        as for peter and olivia, i do want them to end up together, definitely. i don’t see them as a “family” (and i hope those surprises on the family trees don’t happen ;) ), but as two people who are perfect for each other. having said so, i wouldn’t have made it happen so early and i definitely wouldn’t have made their romance the main plot line!

        i do also agree with the fact that the olivia we are seeing lately has nothing to do with the olivia we met in season 1. it’s as though john scott never happened and this was olivia’s first time around in a relationship. olivia struck me as a confident person who knew exactly what she wanted and although she is a royally screwed up person, she seemed to know how to lead a pretty normall life – granted, she’s never been the life and soul of the party or the kind of person with many friends, but she had a normal relationship with john scott and then she kissed that old friend of hers in germany. and all of a sudden she’s the most socially awkward person ever and acts as if she’d never even kissed a guy… i want olivia back!

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        • number six says

          She didn’t have a “normal” relationship with John Scott. They were carrying their affair secretly and in motels and she admitted to him and to her ex in Germany, that she was bad at relationships. The relationship with John Scott, where he proposed to her and all that gothic/romantic stuff happened in her mind, not in reality within a normal intimate relationship.

          I don’t see the disconnect between S1 and S3 Olivia in her love life. The stakes were higher with Peter, so it was more difficult for her to make a move. Not to mention, that everything she went through since the pilot had to affect her somehow.

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          • alexis says

            yes, it was secret because the FBI wouldn’t allow it. but it was normal in the sense that she seemed to be doing just fine and enjoying it. she didn’t seem to be as repressed as she is now. she might not be the type to say “i love you easily”, like she herself admitted to john scott, but she surely seemed comfortable in her relationship with him.

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          • alexis says

            you are right about it being different with peter, though, especially after everything that happened with fauxlivia. she (olivia) does have reasons to be insecure….!!!

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          • real1 says

            I agree with you about Olivia is not that good in her past relation , John Scott used her more than loved her , he was knowing who she was and pretty sure he was knowing about Peter and Walter and the cortxo-trial . So he was close to her .

            To now .. we don’t know how Olivia did grow up , if i will compare it to Peter , Peter was having a mother who was taking care of him she did give him love safe and also belonging , on the other hand Olivia was abused from her stepfather and then she lost her mother while she was 14 , so she did grow alone ? and that’s didn’t transform her to evil person or psycho one the opposite she was wanting to be a cop to protect the people and to not let any one face what she did face , but for Peter .. he did grow with both mother and father .. we don’t know what did happen .. which let Walter crazy after the fire in the lab and then Peter left the house and left his mother to go to Europe and then Walter said to him that his mother died . Peter was choosing to be a con man who can’t hold any job for more than 2 mnths and with 7 crimes ( we don’t know what these crimes is about but Nina Sharp knows ) , So if i recall it right Peter said to Tessa his past girlfriend that she is the one who’s knowing him for who he was , as i recall the John said to Olivia i know who you are Olivia .

            I think either Olivia nor Peter is knowing who they are !!! lol …. but am totally agreeing that both belong with each other , just some redeeming for Peter please ! and not changing Olivia in to Fauxlivia , every one is different than the other one .. because for each one a soul which is different than the other .. even if there is more than one of every thing … the soul is unique and that’s why Walter couldn’t bring his Peter from death again . what’s gone .. is gone .

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          • AnTo says

            So how are the stakes higher with Peter? Just a guy meeting through working together, like John, like Lucas .
            They showed Olivia getting over John with a bootle of scotch, and she got over Lucas so much that she easily asked him for help.

            I remmeber Anna Torv saying in an interview that she saw Olivia with more lovers in differnt cities, the strong independent woman.
            Certainly not needy. that is the problem for me with what the writers have done with both Olivia and Fauxlivia: they have been made needy of a guy who is nothing else then a conman so far.
            We saw Olivia doubting herself over that for 4 episodes, for me she was ready after the last beautiful scene of Marionette, and it would have been up to peter to try to win her back.

            It would have been great if they had followed Anna’s line, both Olivia’s returning to their world and informing their people of their experiences,and so on the other side a revolt against Walternate, and on this side walter under pressure for his use of people and egoistic behaviour. Nothing done with that.

            If the fate of Olivia and Peter had to be, then at the very end.

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            • alexis says

              i so agree with you! that’s how i see (or used to) olivia! and that’s why i think she’s not really being herself these days. and that’s how i would have preferred the show to develop too…

              but probably things with peter aren’t so smooth because i think feelings are stronger in this case and olivia’s learning of peter and fauxlivia really crashed her. still, i think it was for peter to win her back and i could have done without all the awkward moments between them in the past episodes.

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            • number six says

              “So how are the stakes higher with Peter?”

              The stakes are higher, because her feelings for him are stronger. Whether you like it or not. Peters feelings for her are stronger than his feelings for his hot Russian girlfriend, whether I like it or not. That’s their love story.

              “they have been made needy of a guy who is nothing else then a conman so far.”

              Nothing else than a conman? Really? Yeah, should I start calling Olivia nothing more than a woman with a “widow syndrome”? No? Thought so. Also, needy? So showing feelings and caring for someone is being needy now?

              “I remmeber Anna Torv saying in an interview that she saw Olivia with more lovers in differnt cities, the strong independent woman.”

              Well, Olivia was never like that, so way off, Anna Torv, way off! Later on, in the interview for Marionette, Anna said Peter was Olivia’s “Love”, so there, she changed her mind. Anna Torv had her view on what she would like Olivia to be. That’s fine. She has changed her opinion. That’s fine, too. Joshua Jackson also has his own preferences. So what? Actors usually have very little say about their storylines. Which is perfect, because that’s not their job.

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            • real1 says

              @AnTo : I like what you are saying , “Marionette” is my fav episode , and Olivia did change after this ep , I was hoping to see more from Peter but … , that’s how the writers would like to draw the line and to continue the story line , Anna and Josh always having their opinion on the show .. as the fans who’s having their opinion on the show but the writers and the creators are the God of the show :) .

              Josh was thinking that Olivia and Peter are brother and sister , Anna thoughts that it’s at the very end they may hook up . Jone Noble was thinking how you could not let them hook up ! the fans were wanting to hook them up from the very start ….

              And the writers would like to let them hook up since they created the story , so the wonderful thing is that IMO nothing was forced every thing was step by step and why not to see a great love story ? why not to see some anger hurt and then true feelings and great love ? Fringe has a quietly writers and actors/actress so they can do it right and by amazing way .

              For Olivia’s past lovers .. we know Lucas and then John , Lucas admitted that it’s his fault that both didn’t work out and was hoping for a new start .. Olivia was still coming out from john’s death .. and she did start to kiss him back .. but the destiny did interfere Peter did call her !! lol .. so she hold herself back from Lucas . then .. Olivia was hoping to save John life and agreeing to go in the tank : Peter said to her : i hope he is worth it . .. that’s also a destiny .. Peter crushed in love with Olivia from the start …

              So , for now …. letting Peter not knowing Olivia from Fauxlivia is very hurting because she wasn’t her , but Peter is insisting that he was thinking that he was with Olivia … the issue is : die or live Olivia it doesn’t matter I will be with Olivia after all whether it’s red or blue or yellow ???????? that’s the issue from this triangle love .. because how on earth that Peter is holding any feelings for Fauxlivia I don’t know !!! but that’s how the writers would like it to be …… and I hope for some redeeming soon soon ;)

              any way , Fringe is unique show , what ever may happen in it I like this show , I like all the actors and actress , and i hope to see s4 and s5 from it ,

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  2. Paulina says

    Hmm, interesting that they’ve had it planned from the beginning…I’ve often wondered about that.

    I think the part I like best about this whole Peter/Olivia/Walter fate thing is that Peter and Olivia are currently not aware they met as children (at least not consciously) and quite honestly I’m not even sure Walter really remembers either (maybe it will come to him in later episodes — although I don’t know if it will be this season…) But yeah, as the writers said “Subject 13″ changes our view of things but not the characters’ view which is really cool.

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  3. Frobz says

    Hmm…I wonder if it has occurred to Walternate that, given that Peter was on death’s door when he was “taken” that Peter is still somehow alive, and it must have been Walter that cured him.

    Peter wasn’t just abducted. He was on the verge of death, and Walternate had no cure. But not only was he abducted, he was also cured.

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    • Dylan says

      I’m fairly sure that Walternate tries to overlook the fact just to maintain his hate of the other side. It’s less complicated that way lol

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    • Annette says

      That is a good point. I believe Walternate is so consumed with grief and anger that he doesn’t allow himself to consider that he would have lost Peter permanently to illness without the abduction. To the point, I have wondered why Walternate didn’t make retrieving Peter his first priority. Maybe he did, but the shape shifters created by Bell (what collusion was going on there?) and the Boom Boom Machine seem to be at the top of the list. Why wait so long to retrieve Peter?

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      • William Bishop says

        I think that’s because the shapeshifters can’t return to the AU, remember the one in Entrada, he said something like “for me it’s only a one way trip”, so Walternate didn’t have an actually way to bring Peter, except when the worlds are syncronized.

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  4. says

    What on earth re they going on about?! I let out about a 2 minute long “ugggghhhhh!” as I listened to them. I’d rather watch a molebaby jump out of Peter & Companies stomachs then hear anymore about Peter and Olivia. Give me more episodes with textured characters like Milo or Alistair Peck, but please can we take a break from Peter and Olivia? Please???

    I was excited to think about the possibility of other layers of the Fringe universe orthe perception of the characters realities that were explored inthe last episode, but this inteverview just made me feel so… Ugh!

    My hope is that they are being Coy because theydont want to give away too much away.

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      • zuzoka says

        The thing is that Peter & Olivia are Fringe. And Walter of course. :D They are the heart & soul of the show. But I agree the last episodes were focused a little bit too much on them. If there’s such a thing. :)

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        • Tattie says

          Why is everyone so down on the show??? I think it is brilliant that at the centre of a science fiction show are the notions of ‘family, ‘love’, ‘friendship’, ‘trust’ ‘fate’ and most importantly human emotion. For a long time the fans were shouting out for less standalone episodes and more mythologhy based ones. Oliva, Peter and Walter are the mythology of the show! It is expolring their relationships both passed and present that moves the story forward. The writers are building up to something big here and we should be supporting them to make sure our show continues – support not criticism if what ‘Fringe’ needs at the moment. All this whinging about the P & O relationship is really getting on my nerves!!!!

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        • Solis says

          I spent the last days watching s1 and 2 episodes just because of my nostalgique feelings to old fringe team and I read the comments in each Roco’s review just to try and feel back to when there was the cutest of all relation ships OLIVIA/PETER and FATHER/SON relationship ,and GEEENEE, and the creepy cases that envolve a really adorable team , no conflicts, no rediculous “you love me more you love my alternate version more !! a “,” I love you mOre” ” I have feelings for her…..” Im really bored with the whole stupid triangle thing, I thought that after ENTRADA I could finally take a deep breath and enjoy our team gathering again after a loonnng torture of waiting …., don’t get me wrong I knew there would be consequences, but I never Imagined that they were gonna point tightly on this for a hell of a long time … especially with the love triangle thing agrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…..!!!!!!!! I just wanna go back to where fans were not just commenting to discuss who deserves the other olivia or peter , who loves the other more peter or olivia , olivia should date the observer ,john scott should come back to be with olivia (this was the creepiest I saw somewhere) , peter should date gene , peter is cheating on his girlfriend , omg offffffff!!! , We want more fringe please please please !!! by the way I used to love this olivia and peter couple/relationship but after what the writers did in the last couple of episodes , I don’t know what to wish for anymore and I don’t see any way of resolving this stupid thing !!!

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          • says

            That’s what I’m saying too. I just would rather deal in other aspects of the show other than this love triangle and how it effects the universe(s).

            I’m not down on the show. I OVE IT! I’m just ready to delve deeper into the consequences of Walter’s actions, what that means for the fabric of either universe and less about Peter and Olivia’s “fate”. I was against the whole P/O relationship from the beginning, but Season 3 brought me around slightly. However the last 3-4 episodes has got back to the beginning. No more. There is a reason you shouldn’t sleep with co-workers. I’m sure Broyles would strongly disapprove.

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  5. real1 says

    Well , am for one was expecting that Olivia and Peter were met as a child . because it’s make sense , Walter was treating Olivia with cortixephan .. for sure for one day Peter will visit his father at his office and will see Olivia .

    Still am waiting to see more about what’s between the 2 characters .. what’s their connection together …..

    And if any thing is bad between the 2 = the Fauxlivi’s baby WHICH I HOPE HER WILL DIE WITH HIS MOTHER ! … and we can get something new to look forward ! ….. it’s will be tooo much to let Olivia has Fauxlivia’s baby under any circumstance …… or to change Peter’s character even more than it is ! , some redeeming for Peter sooner than later will appreciated . and giving Olivia some happiness .

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  6. brokor says

    This clip pretty much ruins things for me.
    i am a big sci-fi fan and a constantly present theme in scifi movies-series is “fate is what we make” in the words of john connor(terminator).
    i don’t like the whole “after all it was their fate” etc. above all, it contradicts what elizabeth keeps saying in subject 13.
    i liked the episode and season 3 has been my favourite so far but lay off the grand fate schemes. if everything is decided then what’s the point of having the events unfold anyway.

    a big No-No from me.

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    • William Bishop says

      I’m 100% with you, this fate thing is frustating, unnessesary and a number of other things AND it goes against the idea of the show, if the characters are different in other universes, they were never destined to be like they are or live the same events.

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      • Annette says

        There is the fate that Olivia ended up working with Walter and Peter. I’m not entranced with the “love” fate. Or was this engineered? How did Olivia get assigned to Walter and Peter? Was it influence from Massive Dynamic’s Nina that got the crew together?

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  7. KLA says

    Maybe it is just me, but Lost had a bunch of talk about fate and destiny, and I walked away disappointed with the way it ended and the lack of unanswered questions (like why was Walt special. Sigh . . ).

    So when I see that talk here I am a little worried.

    Brokor- I am with you.

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    • Dylan says

      I think you meant to say ‘lack of answered questions’, not unanswered.

      btw, as a LOST fan, the question isn’t why Walt was special (after all, so was Desmond, Hurley, and Miles – and the ‘why’ and ‘how’ aspect wasn’t important), it’s what the other’s needed him for. And thankfully they answered more questions than not, and at least all the significant ones (minus Walt) were answered.

      Anyway, back to Fringe. It isn’t LOST, where fate was the key theme (the whole man of science vs man of faith), Fringe is about the consequences of our actions.

      The writers in this video appear a little desperate to convert the audience to the idea. Judging from the responses on this page, they didn’t succeed.

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  8. says

    I don’t read this as “It’s all pre-destined” at all. The producers are saying that all of their fates stem from Walter’s choice to steal Peter. That’s still a “our actions have consequences” theme, not a “fate and destiny rule” theme. It’s just that Olivia and Peter both have long reaching consequences in their life because of Walter. Walter still had free will to steal or not steal Peter.

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  9. jen says

    i agree with you john roy, it will be interesting to see where they go with the rest of the season, personally i like the peter/olivia storyline a lot, i enjoyed the show before that aspect was introducted and i enjoy it still now, the fact that they met as children wasn’t hugely shocking as mentioned above it makes sense, looking forward to more fringe when it returns :)

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  10. number six says

    I think that, the moment they presented an alternate universe so similar to ours (assuming the blue universe is our universe), with characters choosing the same careers and partners, “Fate” was obviously a big part of the story. Not to mention the very old drawing with Peter in the machine, big fat Fate clue right there if you ask me.

    I don’t really believe in the concept of free-will, because, personally, I think it’s mostly an illusion. I do think we can shape our lives up to a certain degree, but there are many outside factors that have as much say about our fate as ourselves and they don’t have to be supernatural. By the way, I’m not equating fate and pre-destination here. The first is more malleable and it can be overridden , the latter is more rigid and impossible to fight against.

    I am an atheist and I could have been all: “Oh no! They’re shoving religion down my throat on a sci-fi show again!”, instead of letting the creators tell their story. They like the concepts of god and fate? So be it. As long as the stories they tell are good, and they really REALLY good, I’m in.

    Jeff Pinkner and J.H. Wyman had already talked about fate in the show in a previous interview and they also posed the question if the characters could fight against their fate. That’s the story we’re going to watch, right?

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  11. lizw65 says

    I don’t see what the big deal is. They aren’t saying anything here that we didn’t already know; certainly not that the characters lack free will. We know that Cortexiphan has shaped who Olivia is, that she and Peter met as children, that Walter’s taking Peter from the AU set off a chain of events. How exactly does this change or betray the premise of the show?

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    • number six says

      “How exactly does this change or betray the premise of the show?”

      It doesn’t. It’s baffling to the extreme. I haven’t seen this freak-out anywhere else.

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      • g33k says

        I agree it baffles me too. The theme of fate has been there for me since the first season, since Olivia was discovering she was supposed to be some sort of super-soldier.

        I just hope people calm down enough to keep tuning in and watching the show to keep the ratings up. I love what they’re doing! IMHO the show would be a sad hollow parody of its current self without them developing our central characters they way they have been.

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        • AnTo says

          The response comes in the light of 6 episodes 10-15 dealing more or less with the triangle , 10,11,12 and 14 Olivia and Peter now, with Olivia rewritten , behaving out of character, 13 Fauxlivia also at the feet of peter, and hey, baby and then 15 oh it was meant to be .

          If this would have been in the background and Olivia being her BAMF self and dealing accordingly, as well as working to find the other way, like she said in episode 9 in the beginning, things would look different.

          The two universes were set up to show the effect of different choices, maybe also what fate does to you, how you grow up.
          That is a different kind of fate.

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          • g33k says

            We agree to disagree then, because I don’t see how a BAMF self reaction from Olivia to Peter being manipulated by Fauxlivia was going to be any sort of realistic storyline. Its too one dimensional to keep her in ‘fight’ mode all the time. I don’t see how the writers could have the most HUGELY UNIQUE betrayal happen in a show and then not expect their show that develops characters the way Fringe does to simply make that a background plot. IMHO that would be lame.

            As for working to find the other way, what would you expect Olivia to do? Work tirelessly to find a way to go back to the universe that was just trying to kill her? Especially when she could get stuck in it again? Take it out more on Peter who was duped by Alters his whole life? Her weak spot has always been emotions and for sure Fauxlivia’s actions would throw her for a loop. How quickly would you get over your significant other sleeping with someone else?

            I think the team’s proactiveness has been focused on Peter’s objective to learn about the machine, while every other character (besides Astrid, who is really the most grounded in the team) was still picking up the pieces from being duped (Peter), seeing their Alter dead (Broyles), and Walter’s been intimidated and scared into following the lead of Peter who seems to ‘not be himself’. I think that’s a really good reason for him not to be more pro-active then he has been in the past few episodes, but you can see that’s finally starting to change.

            The baby thing – I’m waiting for it to surprise me. I’m hoping Frank’s words in immortality’s scene at fringe headquarters ‘they started eating their way out of a person and they’ve never done that before’ are foreshadowing for a really cool plot.

            And finally – the relationship as fate thing being a different type of fate. It was SO obvious from season one, early on, that you could see Peter was very protective of Olivia. With a show that weighs choice against fate as one of its central themes, I don’t think its reasonable to expect that to only be explored from only certain angles.

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  12. Solis says

    I spent the last days watching s1 and 2 episodes just because of my nostalgic feelings to old fringe team and I read the comments in each Roco’s review just to try and feel back to when there was the cutest of all relation ships OLIVIA/PETER and FATHER/SON relationship ,and GEEENEE, and the creepy cases that envolve a really adorable team , no conflicts, no rediculous “you love me more you love my alternate version more !! a “,” I love you mOre” ” I have feelings for her…..” Im really bored with the whole stupid triangle thing, I thought that after ENTRADA I could finally take a deep breath and enjoy our team gathering again after a loonnng torture of waiting …., don’t get me wrong I knew there would be consequences, but I never Imagined that they were gonna point tightly on this for a hell of a long time … especially with the love triangle thing agrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…..!!!!!!!! I just wanna go back to where fans were not just commenting to discuss who deserves the other olivia or peter , who loves the other more peter or olivia , olivia should date the observer ,john scott should come back to be with olivia (this was the creepiest I saw somewhere) , peter should date gene , peter is cheating on his girlfriend , omg offffffff!!! , We want more fringe please please please !!! by the way I used to love this olivia and peter couple/relationship but after what the writers did in the last couple of episodes , I don’t know what to wish for anymore and I don’t see any way of resolving this stupid thing !!!

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  13. AnTo says

    Final note about the Olivia and peter comments everywhere, not just this blog:
    after episode 12 and the Sam Weiss comments Pinkner and Wyman were everywhere, explaining that storyline and the baby, must have some reason.
    See what they will do next in the spoiler items on this blog.

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  14. mlj102 says

    Interesting discussion… I really don’t understand what all the fuss is about. As others have mentioned, the concept of fate has been a part of Fringe since the beginning. And so has the concept of choice. That’s part of what’s so neat about it. They have emphasized in numerous ways the idea of one’s choices influencing who they become and how events unfold. They have always shown how one has to face the consequences of their choices, no matter how small. Clearly, choice is an important aspect of what makes things the way they are. But then there’s also that idea of fate. The concept that, as unlikely as it seems, somehow, Peter and Olivia still were brought together. Despite the fact that they were from different realities, no matter what choices they made (or perhaps because of the choices they made) they still ended up working together and developing feelings for each other. For whatever reason, that seems to have been something that was just meant to happen. I find it fascinating the way they have shown how these two seemingly contrasting concepts come together and play a role in the events in life. It’s choice, but it’s also fate.

    As for the Peter/Olivia relationship, as a whole, I think it’s become more of a focus than I ever cared for it to be. And yet, I think they’ve handled it well. And I hope that, while it will continue to be a factor in the over all story, it will take more of a backseat now that they’ve developed it to where it is.

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