Fringe: The 10 Best Moments of 2009


Fringe: Best Moments 2009

With 2009 nearing its end we thought we’d follow up our “10 Most Fascinating Characters” retrospective with a look back at our 10 Best Fringe Moments from the past year. Let me tell you, it was NOT easy to select just 10 moments from the 20 episodes that aired in 2009. However we painstakingly cast our minds back to the very best (and in some cases, most significant) moments from those episodes and came up our ordered list, counting down to what we believe was the very best Fringe moment of 2009.

See whether or not you agree with our choices below the jump.

10. Jones Opens a Door (“There’s More Than One of Everything”, episode 1.20)

Jones

David Jones was a fantastic character with many highlights during his short stint on the show. One of our favorite Jones, and indeed, series moments came as he opened the doorway to over there only to be thwarted at the last moment by that pesky Peter. There he was bandaged up like the invisible man, his molecules disintegrating and yet he still had time to reel out one or two classic Jones lines. We particularly love the way he said “your bullets just go right through me”. The man went far too soon, but thank goodness there’s more than one David Jones.

9. Olivia Returns (“A New Day In The Old Town”, episode 2.01)

If I lie here I might get the day off

What can I say, some moments are just visually impactful. The sight of Olivia doing her very best Superwoman impression as she came crashing back from her visit to the other side was quite simply stunning. And haunting! We debated whether this moment really deserves to be in our top 10 moments of 2009, but in retrospect we think it encapsulated the return of the show perfectly and the scene in general condensed a lot exposition.

8. Grave Mistake (“There’s More Than One of Everything”, episode 1.20)

We had figured it out long before the reveal, nonetheless the confirmation that original Peter was both dead and our Peter was from an alternate reality was one of the most powerful Fringe moments of 2009. The fact that no words were required to make this scene work speaks volumes. The loss, the pain, the deception – all summed up in the tears of a father.

7. Olivia Remembers (“Momentum Deferred”, episode 2.04)

I'll ring your bell if you're not careful..

Or, the “Olivia in Wonderland Tea Party”, as I like to call it. Although the scene had some contrivances in the way it was presented (i.e. continuity from the season 1 finale went right out of the window), it was visually memorable and loaded with important information, including; The First Wave, The Storm and the symbol, Bell’s illness and the suggestion that he’s trapped on the other side. I especially loved the time-slips which helped to illustrate the jet-lag, or displacement that comes with crossing over in the way that Olivia did. Olivia really cemented herself as my favorite when she stood there, arms folded and laid the smack down on doctor Bell:

Olivia: Oh, I can grasp it just fine. I don’t trust you, Doctor Bell…or William, or…Willum…or whatever cutesy name you think might appeal to my childhood instincts. It won’t. Your company has been involved in, if not directly responsible for, some of the most horrific things that I have ever seen, to say nothing of the fact that you just yanked me into a parallel universe to warn me about an inter-dimensional war that I believe you are responsible for starting. So what I want is not warmth, or tea. It’s the truth.

You go girl! :) This was one of those moments where you just have to sit back as you realise just much far a character has grown. As Bell himself said: “You are only just coming into your domain”. As an aside, I’m curious as to why Bellie decided not to mention The Blight. Bell propaganda?

6. Lights Out (“Ability”, episode 1.14)

This moment was all about the realisation, or rather, confirmation, of Olivia’s ability, both for us as an audience and for Dunham herself. It was a special scene because David Jones had just upped the stakes by threatening to destroy countless lives unless his faith in Olivia’s ability to disarm the bomb was founded. This required Olivia – at this stage open minded, yet skeptical of any kind of self-importance – to dig deep and find faith in herself. Logic went out of the window as she braved the impossibilities and popped away the little lights. The moment was made all the more important because of Peter’s part in disabling the bomb. He may have just stood there but I haven’t changed my opinion that his own ability played some part in helping Olivia to disable the bomb. Indeed, events in season 2 have only solidified Peter’s mercurial talent, even if he doesn’t yet know it himself.

5. Over There We Go (“There’s More Than One of Everything”, episode 1.20)

As Olivia crossed over to the alternate universe, I felt that the audience went there with her. The reveal itself wasn’t a surprise for me, but it gave the entire season perspective. The scene was filled with powerful symbolism – reflections, sliding doors, blue lights, and, of course, the Twin Towers pull back, conjuring a mixture of emotions including sadness and hope. And isn’t that what this show is about? On top of all that we have a physical metaphor for the twin reality concept. I still have no idea why Bell had to step out from the shadows like a crazy man – but the scene itself worked and provided a satisfying end to a terrific prologue.

4. Bad Dreamin’ (“Bad Dreams”, episode 1.17)

This scene was so un-Fringe-like, but it worked. You’ve got Lady Gaga’s “Starstruck” and Olivia (Lane) acting like Olivia’s bad twin – how could this not work! The girl-on girl-kiss wasn’t bad either, but that’s not what made this scene so captivating. It was dark, sexy and descriptive – even though no words are said for over 90 seconds. Then we get the reveal – even if you realised the trick, it was still fascinating as Olivia whispers every detail, every emotion that is coursing through Nick Lane as his feelings literally kill the dancer. The detail here is fantastic:

Olivia: The Dancer. He’s infecting her. She’s catching it. His emotions are jumping to her.

The writing, directing and acting were on top form here. In retrospect, I’d say this was one of Anna Torv’s finest performances in 2009. We also got some great comic relief with Walter, Peter and Astrid reacting to Olivia’s moans, and, we get another clue that the boy Peter has THE POWA:

Walter: Peter. Help her. Help her calm down.

*Peter touches Olivia’s hand and she calms down under the green and red blinking lights*

3. Rooftop Stand-off (“Bad Dreams”, episode 1.17)

Olivia’s rooftop stand-off with Nick Lane is a scene that has stuck with me ever since I first saw it. We got so many clues as Lane, young Olivia’s “buddy” during their childhood Cortexiphan experiments, pleads with her to kill him so that he won’t be able to hurt any more people with his ‘ability’. The emotion from Lane is touching and equally reflected in Olivia as she grapples to understand and remember:

Lane: You were always the strong one. Whenever I got scared you would make me feel better. Do you remember, Olive?

Olivia: I’m sorry, no. I don’t.

Lane: It’s OK. I think they meant for us to forget. I just couldn’t

Olivia may be the strong one but I can’t help but see Lane as a cautionary tale for the struggles that Olivia will eventually face (things have so not got bad yet). Let’s just hope that Peter is by her side if when she becomes as broken as Lane is in this scene. Somehow, I don’t think that Peter has the ‘touch’ for no good reason. Perhaps this is the pattern we should be focusing on.

And of course, the moment of levity with Peter, Walter and the crushed car is quite fantastic. :)

2. The Choice (“Grey Matters”, episode 2.10)

Choices, choices

I spoke quite a bit about this moment in our Grey Matters review, and a few weeks later, I still believe this to be one of the best and most important moments in Fringe to date. Not only do we have Olivia face to face with an antagonist who may or may not end up being sympathetic in his own right, but we have her making an important choice - prevent a crucial moment in the of history of worlds, or save Walter Bishop. Newton taunts Olivie for being “weak”, but this is much more than a jibe – he now knows for a fact how to get to her. By saving Walter, Olivia hasn’t just saved the life of a friend, she’s left everyone around her open to attack – Walter, Peter, Ella, Rachel, Broyles. Choosing to save Walter wasn’t, in my opinion, “weak” on a human level, but it did expose the gaps in Olivia’s armour. There’s no way the shape-shifters would have agonised over such a decision (at least from what we’ve seen). Advantage First-Wave. For these reasons alone, and for ethical and moral implications involved, this is one of those moments that will surely define the show in 2009.

1. The Truth (“Bad Dreams”, episode 1.17)

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The series high – and therefore BEST moment – came as Olivia discovers that Walter was involved in her childhood Cortexiphan trials. Suddenly the “mysterious events” took on greater meaning as the characters begun to realise just how intertwined their lives are. The scene works on many levels, and it’s one of the few occasions where the characters spend a good few minutes just talking. But it’s the details that really get me; from the way Olivia locks the door (no-one is leaving the room until she drags some answers from Walter!), to Walter’s “where’s the fire!”, to the tender manner in which he cups Olive’s face – sending Olivia reeling in disgust – as the pieces begin to come together.  And of lets not forget lines like this:

WALTER: It worked on perception. Carlos Castaneda, Aldus Huxley, Werner Heisenberg, all focused on one single elementary truth. Perception is the key to transformation.

PETER: Reality is both subjective and malleable. If you can dream a better world, you can make a better world.

WALTER: Or perhaps travel between them.

PETER: What did you just say?

*Walter opens a fridge door, its glass reflecting Peter*

Indeed, Fringe..indeed.

Honorable mentions: Walter finding the chapter of Ethics, death of Evil Charlie, September telling Walter “there’s more than one of everything”, Nicholas Boone asking Walter “how far would you go for someone you love?”, the death of August – “she’s responsible for the death of one of us”, Walter watching the tape of Olive/The Incident, and Walter’s jig!

So there you have it – our 10 best Fringe moments from a memorable 2009. What do you think? Are there any moments you think we missed? Do you have a different order? Feel free to share any thoughts that you might have.

Comments

  1. Queenbee says

    Of course, most of the moments is an Olivia moment. My point has been proven. Nobody cares about ANY of the other characters but Olivia.

    Thanks a lot to the writers for practically ignoring every single character on this show just to make Olivia the best character ever.

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    • Reflection says

      Queenbee: I give up. There’s no talking reason with you, and asking you to be polite on here is obviously asking too much.

      Roco: Great list! There have been some awesome Fringe moments this year! I can only imagine what 2010 will bring!

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    • says

      Maybe I’m an exception, but my favorite characters by far are Peter and Walter. Olivia is below them and maybe Broyles. I don’t know what it is about her, I like her, but the other characters are more interesting to me.

      Anyway, great list! Can’t wait for Fringe to return!

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      • says

        My opinion is that Walter, Peter and Olivia are equally interesting and the actors are equally good and very profound in their characters. I hope that the writers get a balance between the three of them always. The three of them have a great dynamic.

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    • Drakan says

      They have been focusing on all of them. Perhaps on Olivia a bit more than the others, but that’s to be expected since she’s the main. Besides, correct me if Im wrong, but Fringe HAS been focusing on Walter a great deal lately, for the past couple of episodes at least.

      I adore Walter and September, so I wouldn’t say things like “Nobody cares about ANY other characters”. Generalizations are usually wrong.

      I don’t particularly care about her, but that’s to be expected as well since a majority of female characters in just about all fandoms I love tend to be either so-so (like Olivia, Astrid, too), annoying or I dislike them something awful. Fringe is different; I’ve yet to find a female annoying or even dislikable, which is pretty cool, and a rarity at that.

      @ entry: There isnt much Id add, except possibly the things we learned from the episode August, and when Peter met September (unless that was in 08). All in all, it’s a fine list; I know Id have trouble narrowing it down to just 10.

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      • says

        Hey Drakan!

        About what you said “They have been focusing on all of them. Perhaps on Olivia a bit more than the others, but that’s to be expected since she’s the main. Besides, correct me if Im wrong, but Fringe HAS been focusing on Walter a great deal lately, for the past couple of episodes at least.”

        First, weird I´ve never seen Olivia as main character, I always saw the dynamic trio as equally main characters.

        Second, I don´t think they got the ballance between the three of them yet, last season it was all about Olivia and Walter, this season all about Peter and Walter (Walter is in the center of everything we already see that). I´m missing a little bit of Olivia this season, I´d like that, next season, or the next half of second season, they can ballance the three of them every episode, or, at least, a balance inside the seasons in Olivia-Peter-or-Walter centered episodes.

        But in bad robot I trust and I think that´s a storytelling device they are using and I like the way things are going. Is just a observation more than a real complaint.

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        • Drakan says

          I consider her as sort of the one we know the most about, so I guess that was my reasoning, but you’re particularly right. :} But I kind of like it that they’re there’s more than one character they’re looking at in each season. I do agree, though! I think having a three-character focus between them would be nice too, but I guess one can’t complain too much. :)

          Yeah, I hear ya. ^^; I’d really like to see more Observers (particularly the older ones, since I’m not quite sold on them yet), but that may be a bais. X3; Thanks for bringing them up. :D

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  2. mlj102 says

    Interesting. I had a lot of reactions while I read through this list and your comments, so I will try to keep my comments here to a minimum. But it’s still going to be long.

    Essentially, I agree with all of the moments you chose, but I think I would have put them in a very different order. I was surprised as I started from the bottom and was reading all of the moments I had expected to find at the very top of the list. I couldn’t figure out what moments you were going to use for the top moments if those ones were so low. Here’s how I would have put it:

    10. Bad Dreamin’: Yes, the acting was great, yes there was a great mood and feel to the whole thing, yes, I love the episode, but personally, I was surprised to find this moment on your list. It was good, but I didn’t think it was so good that it should beat out all the other moments you had listed. Personally, that scene is actually the one thing about that episode that I dislike — though that’s probably my personal bias getting in the way. If I were to choose something from this episode, I would have picked something like the opening scene — completely unexpected to see Olivia standing there, having pushed the woman off the platform, and it opened the episode with a whole lot of questions — or the scene in the lab when Walter is proposing theories while Olivia is trying to make sense of what happened — the acting there was perfect, even all the subtle expressions and movements, and the dialogue was awesome!

    9. Jones opens a door: This one I agree with you and I think you pretty much said it all.

    8. Grave mistake: Same here — very important moment, very emotional moment, very pivotal moment.

    7. Olivia Remembers: I loved this scene and thought it was well done. From the moment Peter rang the Bell, and Olivia collapsed in the background, I was in awe at how the scene unfolded. Like you, I loved the way Olivia reacted and stood her ground against Bell. I thought the time-slips added so much to the scene and made it feel very authentic. And, for the record, I still don’t understand the problems you have with the continuity from season 1. Other than the office looking a little different, which is understandable given the move from New York, I can’t find anything wrong with it.

    6. Rooftop Stand-off: Again, you pretty much said it all, though I just didn’t feel like it should be as high up on the list as you placed it. Certainly, the scene was very memorable and provided a lot of important information, and I can watch that scene over and over again and every time, I am in awe at the whole thing, I just didn’t think it beat out some of the other moments.

    5. The truth: I know this is, what you consider to be, the best Fringe moment so far. I just can’t manage to see it in that same light. I agree that it had all of the things you said it did. But for whatever reason, I just don’t see it to be as monumental and classic as you do. Yes, I love the scene, yes it was big, but I can’t quite consider it as that high on the list.

    4. Lights out: Ability was a huge, monumental episode, and it all was leading up to this moment in the episode. When Olivia saw the lights were part of the bomb and she realized what Jones had been planning all along, it was like a showstopper for me. And then her frantic phone call with Jones, then resigning herself to the fact that she had to at least try — just made it all the more intense and powerful. The acting from both Anna and Joshua was top of the line. I am continually amazed when I watch this episode at how convincing Anna was at staring at those lights. Seriously, on three different occasions throughout the episode, she had to stare at those lights, and in each circumstance, she managed to look at them in a different way. And the way she stared at them in that end scene, it was really like you could see that something was actually going on. And then the implication of what just happened, the fear and confusion and realization that crosses her face after the lights all go out — perfect.

    3. Olivia returns: Honestly, this was the biggest surprise in your list, in my opinion. When you said you weren’t sure if it even deserved to be on your list, I was shocked. That moment was, as you said, simply stunning. Talk about starting off the new season with a bang! I think it was unexpected, it was perfectly done, and it left an image in my mind that is unparalleled by anything else I can think of. Sure, there were no new secrets revealed, nothing really happened, but visually, it was as good as it gets, and that’s got to count for something. Without a doubt, it is a moment that no one can forget!

    2. Over there we go: This, too, was a pivotal moment in the series and left huge impressions. As you mentioned, the symbolism in that scene was huge, the reveal of being in the alternate universe could not have been done any better, and leaving off the series with Olivia in the alternate reality was huge! Certainly one of the most talked about moments of any TV show for that season. Huge.

    1. The choice: I loved this scene. I thought it was everything it should be. The fact that it was tense and full of emotion just cemented the fact that it was huge. Honestly, it’s one of the biggest difficulties in television, I think, to have tension in a moment when one of your main characters is in danger, because most of the time, everyone knows you can’t actually kill off that character. Throughout that scene, I knew there was no way Walter would actually die. So the fact that I still felt the urgency and the tension and the struggle of Olivia’s choice, really says something about this scene. I felt like I could feel how torn Olivia was feeling. From the very beginning of the episode, they made sure to establish how determined Olivia was to find and stop Newton. And when she actually managed to stop the van, kill the two shapeshifters, and capture Newton, I was completely surprised. I hadn’t expected that at all. She had him, she had fulfilled the task she had committed herself to, and then… she had to just let him go. It’s no surprise she beat herself up over that one. I did not envy her being in that position at all. And, as you pointed out, that moment was pivotal, and the implications of that moment were huge!

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    • says

      Great points, mlj.

      I had a feeling not many would agree with the “Bad Dreaming’” choice, but in retrospect I think it’s a very underrated scene, particularly as it features 4 of the main cast and Nick Lane (in a sense). I also think it does a great job of telling a story without breaking pace. And of course we have a mixture of tones, from comedic moments, to the dark, edgy stuff, to the panic and tenderness of Peter calming Olivia down (and Walter being the one to make the suggestion). Then there’s Olivia effectively playing the ‘narrator’ – a technique that gave the show a new dimension. There’s so much more, of course, but I just feel that the scene is brilliant on many levels.

      Whilst I thought the opening sequence was good, I think a challenge in compiling this list was: 1. to be competley honest with our choices – there was no room for sentiment, and 2. (this relates to our decision not to include the 1.17 opening) to steer clear of teasers/openings and cliff-hangers where possible. It would be easy to come up with a list full of cliff-hangers, for example. But we felt it important to find as many moments as possible where the creative team and actors managed to supply great moments that didn’t purely rely on dramatic bookends. That said, I really do love the scene you mentioned above, and the way it was filmed.

      Re: my problems with the continuity in the “Olivia Remembers” scene. It’s not just the office looking different, it’s also Bell’s dialogue. He doesn’t say “Oliviaaaaaaa” (etc) in the S1 finale. These details were somewhat distracting because the original version was so specific in my mind. Not enough to prevent it from being wonderful, but just enough for me to stop, notice and question. Saying that, S5 of LOST had a lot of that kind of thing – athough much of it probably intentional.

      Re: “The Truth” scene. I can definitely appreciate your opinions. If I was to attempt to qualify it a bit more I would say that the scene was so great because it didn’t try to be a “monumental classic”. It worked because it was a personal moment between three characters who are struggling to deal with the world around them and the way in which their choices shape each other. I love the level of intimacy and and the way the threads come together at exactly the same time. Plus, Olivia and Peter finally begin to ask questions of Walter (and perhaps begin to see him in a dimmer light) – all of it tapped into the overarching mythology of the show. So we get a mythology moment driven by our characters, and for a show that is scared of it’s own mythology, I thought this was a great way to disguise it yet still give us the goods.

      Yeah, “Olivia Returns” was the only opener that made it into the list. I think we could have placed it higher for the reasons you expressed. In the end it was a balancing act – trying to figure out what it is about these moments that make them better or ‘worse’ than others. I’d say that “Olivia Returns” is a great piece of symbolism for the show, really high quality stuff that resonates for a long time, particularly with the S1 ending in mind. The other scenes, I feel, have more ‘acting’ involved. On another day it could have been higher, but only by one, maybe two postions max, imo. That said, all of our top 10 choices represent our opinion of the very cream of the show from the past 12 months, so coming in at #9 is not too shabby at all! :D

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      • mlj102 says

        Thanks for the response, Roco. It helped to have you back up your choices a bit more. And, while my opinion may still differ somewhat, I can see where you’re coming from. There certainly were a lot of great moments to choose from and I think that, while individual opinions may vary, no one can deny that 2009 was a great year for Fringe and that there were numerous exceptional moments. It’s no small task to review the year and narrow those moments down to only 10.

        Just a quick comment about your problems with the continuity between the Season 1 finale and Momentum Deferred: you mentioned that Bell’s dialogue was different between the two scenes. For me, I never had a problem with that, because I didn’t feel the two scenes were meant to overlap at all. The Season 1 finale ended with Olivia looking out the window of Bell’s office, realizing where she was. When she remembered the meeting in Momentum Deferred, it picked up right at that exact moment — as she was looking out the window. So there would have been no reason for Bell’s dialogue to be the same between the two scenes. Now, if Momentum Deferred had picked up right when Olivia had entered the office, or right when Bell had entered the office for that matter, then I would have expected the dialogue to have been consistent and repeated. I just didn’t see that there was any overlap between the two scenes, thus I saw no problem with continuity.

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        • says

          Nice catch mlj! I realised my mistake a couple of days after I made my post, but I’m glad you pointed it out. Of course, I take that point back – as you said, it made sense for the story to pick up where it did. I do stand by my overall point about the continuity though. For such a big moment the consistency between the two scenes is worth mentioning. They must have known fans would pick up on it. It would have been nice had the newspaper made its way into the 2.04 version of events, for example.

          That said, I do love this moment for what it is, and I can understand the desire to make adjustments to Bell’s office and the meeting post finale. In a sense, I’m glad they did (in this instance) as, continuity aside, it worked.

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  3. Queenbee says

    I am going freaking pray this year that peter finally gets his BIG moment just so I can see HIS name on your list instead of OLIVIA!

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    • Ash says

      I quite agree with you here. Peter is by far my favourite character who has so much potential. I wish they’d reveal a bit more about his life becuase he has so many secrets that I want to find out about! The show has too much Olivia methinks and I find her a little annoying at times but Walter is quite funny. I think Peter and Olivia scenes together are usually the best because Peter usually cracks a joke or acts like a smartypants (which I like) and Olivia seems less annoying when with Peter. Hopefully they’ll reveal more about Peter this season (not including the storyline of him being from an alternate universe since everyones figured that out already).

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  4. Queenbee says

    It seems to me that you have not paid much attention to this show if every single moment is mostly Olivia. this list is bogus and biased. Hopefully somebody else has a better list that is not Olivia-based.

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    • says

      We have paid attention to the show. If we all agreed on the same things the show would be lesser for it, dontcha think?

      You’re more than welcome to post your Peter-centric list.

      It didn’t even occur to me that Olivia was so prominent on the list until reading the comments – which is a good thing, as it wasn’t an intentional choice, rather an honest assessment of our best moments from 2009. There’s no point in us posting just to please – it’s all about opinion and interpretation. Again, I’d be happy to see your list. Also, I feel that a lot of our selections are driven by Olivia but enhanced by the other characters (for example, #1 is about all of them, as is #2). But I’m not going to say that Olivia isn’t a great character, because when she’s good, she’s damn good.

      Someone mentioned the moment where we see Walter transform into past-Walter during “GM”. That’s a great shout. As is the Peter/Walter moment from the beach house in 1.20. Those aside, I think we nailed the list in relation to our perspective of the show. Other people, of course, may see things differently, which is great – and the reason why we invite people to share their views.

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  5. Karo says

    Right before i started reading the list i told myslef “The hotel scene in Bad dream will be no.1….”

    Guess what?
    I completely agree with you on this choice as the no.1 moment of 2009.
    The whole show can be define by this single scene. It was just perfect.

    I would have put “Olivia’s return” a little higher on the list (maybe 4 or 5), because it was the only time in the entire series where i said “Holy sh…” [i]out loud.[/i] Visually stunning and totally unexpected. When you read blogs, reviews or articles about the show, this sequence of frequently mention as the “wow” moment of this season. It deserves its place on this list.

    A couple other honorable mentions: Walter becoming his “old self” in Grey Matters. Olivia putting a gut to Sam’s head in Fracture (and the music!). Olivia and Peter undercover in The transformation (cleverness all around…). Walter on the bus bench in Snakehead. The bookstore scene (ok that is just me! but this scene was really fun).

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  6. amiza says

    what about the moment walter is dying in Grey matters? joshua jackson and john noble had a master piece.

    the moment walter felt he is the old him in gery matters…”how’s everything on your side?

    when walter Got lost in China Town (snake Head) and he is trying to call peter.

    when peter and walter where at the summer house and walter was trying to remember what he was searching for.

    the last scene of August…when he was dying in the car.

    the list goes on and on :)

    yoou know which scene i’m dying to see the most? the “all is out ‘moment when peter gets to know he is from the other side. i assume it is gonna be this season! and i wish it is not the last episode coz i wont be able to wait for the time of the 3rd season to know the consequences!

    happy new year everyone btw :)

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    • says

      yoou know which scene i’m dying to see the most? the “all is out ‘moment when peter gets to know he is from the other side. i assume it is gonna be this season! and i wish it is not the last episode coz i wont be able to wait for the time of the 3rd season to know the consequences!

      Definitely one of the most anticipated moments. I can see it being a season finale device, whether that’s season 2 or 3 remains to be seen!

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  7. amiza says

    what about the moment walter is dying in Grey matters? joshua jackson and john noble had a master piece.

    the moment walter felt he is the old him in gery matters…”how’s everything on your side?

    when walter Got lost in China Town (snake Head) and he is trying to call peter.

    when peter and walter where at the summer house and walter was trying to remember what he was searching for.

    the last scene of August…when he was dying in the car.

    the list goes on and on :)

    yoou know which scene i’m dying to see the most? the “all is out ‘moment when peter gets to know he is from the other side. i assume it is gonna be this season! and i wish it is not the last episode coz i wont be able to wait for the time of the 3rd season to know the consequences!

    happy new year everyone btw :)

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  8. WWE Fan from LA says

    #6 “Olivia’s Abilty” was definitely a major turning point in the show. Great list, Rocco!

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  9. annon says

    While some of these I would agree with, I think there were definitely other moments which were just important.

    The choice, while a key moment for Olivia, was made even more difficult because Peter was pleading with her to save Walter. That definitely factored into her thinking, in that particular moment. Would she have made the same decision if Peter wasn’t there?

    I would have put a few more Walter moments/realisations on the list. The reason being it was a realisation for him but we as the audience also got told a few pieces of the puzzle.

    The Bad Dream moments? Really? The only one I agree with is ‘The truth’ and even then I think it should be alot further down. The alternate reality reveal to me should be no 1. That was such a key moment, and a great way to end a season in my opinion. This moment finally got people talking about the show.

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  10. charliefan19 says

    My favorite moment was the entire Walter-at-Peter’s-gravesite. I didn’t see it coming at all…(blush) so that was the ultimate Fringe moment that made me sit up straight and go, “Ohmygosh!”

    If Charlie’s death hadn’t been so obvious, I probably would have yelled “Ohmygosh!” when his body is revealed at the end of A New Day.

    The “Ability” moments stuck with me a lot more than the “Bad Dreams” but (a-HEM!) to every one his own opinion.

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  11. says

    Good list, but I´m a little disappointed. C´mon, not mentioning Walter being his old self in grey matter?! The choice gets in the list and THAT doesn´t. I don´t agree with Queenbee that, you Rocco, loves only Olivia (btw I mostly like your lists and observations), but this list is a little bit of that. Walter almost dying and Peter almost crying was a very exciting moment too, because is so thrilling Peter loving his father again, especially when we know what will happen…

    I do agree that ability, bad dreams and there´s more than one of everything have the great majority of exciting moments, but i would add grey matter too. I can´t get enough of those episodes!

    Happy New Fringe Year for everyone

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  12. WWE Fan from LA says

    Oops..I meant #8. Did you not see that? You said this list has nothing to do with the other characters….wrong again!

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  13. Queenbee says

    Here are some moments that everyone probably fogotten about

    1. peter’s dream
    2. Walter and Astrid’s scene together in Snakehead (John and Jasika should get much more props for this but nobody cared)
    3. The glow behind Peter’s head (I am sure first time viewers would be like, what is up with that?)- Forgotten yet again
    4. Peter consoling Walter and being freaked out (probably Peter and Walter’s turning point which wasn’t on this list)
    5. Olivia (who was braindead) waking up right after PETER was about to kiss her (another big moment that failed to be put on this list)
    6. William bell telling Olivia that she will need Peter by his side (Some people might chalk it up to (oh he is Walter’s son, blah, blah, if that was the case, then William should have said keep WALTER AND PETER by her side)

    All moments that should have been on this list but wasn’t do to Olivia dunham.

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    • says

      Good to see you finally backing your arguments up. It makes for much better and more mature discussion, I think.

      I personally wouldn’t put Peter’s dream in the top 10 (although maybe top 20?) because it was a cliff-hanger. Otherwise we’d have a list full of the last 2 minutes of episodes. That said, I can see why you’d pick that moment, it was a good moment.

      “Snakehead” was a low point for Fringe, IMO. Astrid and Walter did some good work, but as I said in the review at the time, the scene lacked genuine substance. Unless you mean the Lab scene? (you didn’t clarify) – which was great, but not quite great enough for this list, I don’t think. Remember, we left sentiment at the door – love Astrid, but that’s not enough.

      “The glow” – good suggestion, although far too fleeting a moment IMO. It lasted, what, 3 seconds? It would need to be earth shattering to make our list for 3 seconds worth of content. Perhaps top 20.

      “Peter consoling Walter..” – which moment are you referring to exactly?

      “Olivia (who was braindead) waking up right after PETER was about to kiss her” – No thanks. Nice moment but it doesn’t fit our criteria for best of 2009.

      “William bell telling Olivia that she will need Peter by his side” – We included this moment in “Olivia Remembers”, so I would agree. Although this one 2 second moment on its own wouldn’t have made it.

      Again, your opinions, just like everyone elses, are valid. Will your list make us re-evaluate our choices? Nope – as I said, by and large we haven’t seen a suggestion that would make us change a thing (so don’t go blaming Olivia D! :) ). But it’s good to have food for thought, as Walter would say.

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      • charliefan19 says

        yeah, these were great moments but we’re talking best of 09. I wouldn’t say the light behind Peter’s head was a series highlight, since we already know he’s from over there, anyway. But thanks for letting us in on what you were thinking, anyway. :)

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  14. Queenbee says

    BTW Rocco, I disagree that this list was unintentional since it was you who said
    that Olivia is the character you are most invested in. So clearly, this list is biased and not fair to the other characters who had thier turning points NOT just olivia.

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    • says

      You can believe what you want but I’m telling you a true story! :)

      My point was, the creation of the list didn’t include a conscious decision to make Olivia (or any character) the dominant character. It just happened, because..she’s the character who has, in our opinion, been present in the majority of the best Fringe moments of 2009. Just like Peter is present in most of your best Fringe moments that you listed above – funny how that works, huh? It’s about opinions, and opinions by their nature are of course biased. That being said our opinions were based on the moments, not some need to give Olivia props.

      I can stand by our list because, aside from one or two suggestions, I don’t think we’d change it that much. I mean, it’s difficult to select just 10 moments (especially because we pretty much steered clear of cliff-hangers and openers), and I think we’ve treated it fairly, both during the selction process and in retrospect.

      If you don’t agree, you don’t agree. The world will still turn. At least..I think it will. ;)

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    • WWE Fan from LA says

      Hey Queenie,

      domino’s pizza has been running a commercial where they say they’ve taken their customers’ criticisms to heart. it shows a clip of a lady saying the crust tastes like cardboard. so they’re adding garlic flavoring to their pizza crust.

      domino’s: it tastes like garlic flavored cardboard!

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  15. Pedro says

    I like the list.

    I liked the scene where the observer was driving his other observer brother around before he died. I thought that was a good scene for a secondary character, but I wouldn’t put it in the top 10.

    Nice list as usual.

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  16. FringeFan2009 says

    Hi Roco,

    Loved the list, but I must say that I agree with mlj102 on the ordering.

    10. Bad Dreaming (Double Olivia): It was awesome from the cinematography and acting perspective, but the contribution to the overall story was lacking.

    9. Jones opens a door: Yeah, who doesn’t love Jones, plus the scene truly verifies to the characters, that #1 the other side does exist, #2 there is a way to get there and the machine Walter built, works.

    8. Grave mistake: Yep, verification that our Peter is from the other side, the real Peter died, and Walter remembers this vital detail.

    7. Olivia Remembers: I loved this scene, not only because it revealed so much information, but because Olivia’s reaction to him made the audience remember that Bell is probably the villain in the series. Also loved the time-slips, go writers!

    6. Rooftop Stand-off: This scene visually stunning as well. Maybe it is just me, but I saw this as a foreshadowing of what Olivia might have to go through sometime in the future, b/c she was face to face with the man/boy that she was partnered with during the drug trials. What happens to him is a direct reaction to cortexaphan. Very powerful scene.

    5. The truth: Great scene, but can’t see this as high on the list as you. It was more revealing from a character personality development point of view, but it really doesn’t move the story forward to that degree.

    4. Lights out: I think that this part should have been higher on the list for sure. It verifies that, yes, Olivia as special powers and that she probably is the guardian, warrior that will defend this world from total destruction. Everything up until this point has been hear/say. This scene was the verification. Now I’m just waiting on when they are going to address the other tests!

    3. Olivia returns: What an image burner. Writers and directors did a great job with this scene definitely deserves to be #3.

    2. Over there we go: This is the scene that practically the whole show has been working up too. Finally, the meeting with William Bell. Since there were so many time slips, they might be able to pick a few more scenes out of it for her to remember. Anyone have another bell they can ring?

    1. The choice: Definitely the best moment of 2009! By putting Olivia and Peter in their respective situations, it was extremely revealing of both characters. William Bell pulled Olivia into an alternate universe to tell her that she must stop this guy or something very bad is going to happen, she finally has her gun on him, and she lets him go. I think that this shows how much she really does care about Peter and Walter, also, it shows how much Peter cars about Walter. Great scene!

    These scenes do not deserve to be on the top 10 list, but I do think that they are some of the coolest scenes of the year, and deserve a small nod!

    1. Olivia holding a gun to Sam Weiss’s head.
    2. Walter’s reaction when he finds out when Olivia is brain dead. It reveals how much he cares/depends on her. It kind of suggests that she is the rock for the 3 characters. Without her “insane freak show” of an operation, Peter would be “who knows where” getting himself into trouble, and Walter would still be locked up in a mental institution.
    3. An observer dies to save the girl that he loves. This action tells so much about the observers. Their not just drones! They have the ability to feel, maybe they don’t quite what it is, but they are still flesh and blood and can possibly be manipulated/motivated. Why does our observer help Walter and Peter out of the water?
    4. Olivia raises hell when she escapes from her captors in Bound.
    5. And last, but definitely not least, when Nancy focuses on Harris… and seconds later, he lights up and explodes. Haha, you have to admit, that was pretty cool!

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    • says

      Nice points FringeFan!

      4. Lights out: I think that this part should have been higher on the list for sure. It verifies that, yes, Olivia as special powers and that she probably is the guardian, warrior that will defend this world from total destruction. Everything up until this point has been hear/say. This scene was the verification. Now I’m just waiting on when they are going to address the other tests!

      Yeah, whatever happend to those tests? I don’t hold out great hope that we’ll see the rest of them, to be honest, but it would be nice.

      5. And last, but definitely not least, when Nancy focuses on Harris… and seconds later, he lights up and explodes. Haha, you have to admit, that was pretty cool!

      It always raises a smile. ;)

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  17. Elaine says

    Roco, what a great list. While the order of some moments may be debatable, the importance, nor the impact they carry can’t, imo. However, I think I may have substituted your number ten moment (and not for a lack of love for the late David Rober Jones’ character) for the one in ‘The Arrival’ where Walter tells Peter of the Observer who saved both their lives. For starters, John Noble is wonderful in that scene as he sits near motionless, speaking in such a meloncholy tone in recanting this past event to Peter in order to help him make some sense of what he had experienced himself with the Observer. Secondly, it tied into a theme that’s carried over to this season…one that’s tugged insistently at our emotions because of what we know of Peter, and what we fear will happen (to Walter, Olivia, his relationship with both, the Fringe division) once he learns the truth. Other than that…perfect.

    Additionally, I re-watched that clip from ‘Ability’, and it’s interesting to note that right before Peter walks away, he tells Olivia that he’s not doing this with her. It’s unclear why he changes his mind and returns. Perhaps something compelled him to. Knowing now that Olivia has knowledge that she will need Peter gives that moment and also the one in ‘Bad Dreams’ you listed all the more significance. All of this is even more compelling when compare those moments to ‘Grey Matter’, Peter assures Olivia she’s not alone in this fight; yet, later, he ends up frantically having to please with her to return to help him when Walters life is on the line. A decision she viewed as a weakness in her misguided frustration.

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    • mlj102 says

      Elaine: You mentioned that you would have included a scene from the Arrival in the list, but the reason Roco didn’t include that (or any scene from the first half of season 1) is because this list just covers episodes that were aired in 2009. So the moment you mentioned wouldn’t have been considered because it was in 2008. However, like you explained, that scene was wonderful in many ways and I’m sure it would have made a list for top ten moments of 2008. If this list were for the whole series up to this point, there would be several moments from 2008 that I would want to include — it would be difficult to keep it down to just 10!

      Another quick comment about what you said about Grey Matters: You described Olivia’s response after letting Newton go as “misguided frustration.” Personally, I didn’t see it as misguided at all. It was completely understandable. She had allowed a very dangerous man to go free when she didn’t even have any guarantee that he would keep his word and save Walter. Rationally speaking, it really was a rather foolish decision because, in choosing to save Walter, she had to put her trust in the enemy, which typically is not a very smart thing to do. She really was in a very tight spot — neither of her options in that moment were very appealing. That said, I think she made the best choice she could have given the circumstances and I agree that, considering how things worked out, she should not beat herself up over it. However, I don’t blame her at all for having to deliberate for a minute or so before choosing to go help Peter and Walter, and I don’t blame her for feeling guilty afterwards. Poor Olivia…

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    • says

      Roco, what a great list. While the order of some moments may be debatable, the importance, nor the impact they carry can’t, imo. However, I think I may have substituted your number ten moment (and not for a lack of love for the late David Rober Jones’ character) for the one in ‘The Arrival’ where Walter tells Peter of the Observer who saved both their lives. For starters, John Noble is wonderful in that scene as he sits near motionless, speaking in such a meloncholy tone in recanting this past event to Peter in order to help him make some sense of what he had experienced himself with the Observer. Secondly, it tied into a theme that’s carried over to this season…one that’s tugged insistently at our emotions because of what we know of Peter, and what we fear will happen (to Walter, Olivia, his relationship with both, the Fringe division) once he learns the truth. Other than that…perfect.

      Hi Elaine. I agree, that scene from Arrival is a worthy candidate. I would have had a hard time leaving that scene out, and the one where Peter comes face to face with the Observer. Although as mlj said, Arrival aired in 2008, so unfortunately it was out of bounds for this list. Perhaps I’ll consider it if we make an ‘all-time best moments’ Fringe list!

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  18. Elaine says

    mlj

    Another quick comment about what you said about Grey Matters: You described Olivia’s response after letting Newton go as “misguided frustration.”

    I think you may have misunderstood what I meant. I wasn’t referring to Olivia’s frustration being borne out of deciding to save Walter. That was an understandable choice, as you stated. Rather, I was referring that her misguided frustration come from believing that her choice was weak or overly emotional. If that makes sense. ;-)

    Roco, and mlj are correct, that scene from the ‘The Arrival’ aired in 2008. Guess I more focused on it being a S1 moment rather than the year it aired on the show.

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    • says

      Rather, I was referring that her misguided frustration come from believing that her choice was weak or overly emotional. If that makes sense.

      Yeah, at the end of the day she really has to trust in herself. I can imagine Olivia beating herself up even more (and perhaps losing Peter) had she allowed Walter to die. Hopefully we’ll pick up with these themes in Thursday’s episode..although perhaps I’m being overly optimistic! :)

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