Leonard Nimoy and the cast of Fringe discuss the return of William Bell ahead of Friday’s season finale. Watch the new ‘Bell Is Back’ preview below.
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It sounds like Leonard Nimoy is the Biggest Fringe Fan of us all. Thank God.
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Agreed. Although I have to admit, if there were a different actor who wasn’t flirting with retirement all the time, we could probably have stronger Bell stories and episodes. That being said, I love how much Leonard Nimoy is a fan of the show. It makes me excited to watch him. Oh, and John Noble and Nimoy together, too!
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I don’t really agree, I think the power off the Bell character is that he is the man behind the curtain. In all 4 seasons he was doing something or did something that we would find out much later.
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I am not saying he would be in every episode, but his contract status definitely effected this season.
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it seems like they’re trying to play up Bell’s about face like it contributes to some sort of great thought-provoking ideological battle, even though the “i am a god” villain archetype is about as cliche and cartoony as you can possibly get…
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Cliche and cartoony, perhaps. Yet how often is this portrayed in a way in which it’s actually reasonably possible? I think Fringe will avoid the cliches of this development because Bell could actually pull it off. Typically when a character has a God Complex, it’s the result of delusions of grandeur, an exaggeration of a character’s ego and ambitions to do something far beyond what they’re capable of. But Fringe has built up this story in such a way where Bell is in a position that he could actually do it. Which is a frightening thought.
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I personally wish that Leonard were to have grown a mustache and twirled it ominously while tying Olivia to the train tracks (maybe that’s what Walter meant in “Letters of Transit”‘ stay tuned). That would make him cliche in my book.
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Pinkner & Wyman: “Hey, Fringebloggers, drop your pants and bend over.”
Fringebloggers: “Certainly, Almighty Ones! Whatever your collective genius desires!”
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such a cynical attitude and yet you will be the 1st to post on the show ?
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As much as it may annoy me with the negative comments, I respect that Darth Kate is a fan who is disgruntled with the show’s writing and direction. I agree with Kate on occasion, although mostly to a lesser extent. There has got to be a place for fans to voice their frustration as well as their enjoyment, no? If she had not watched an episode in the last few months that would be different, in my opinion. But, she does have informed complaints.
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@?
You’re clearly a little infatuated with me since you seem determined to comment only in response to my posts, but I’m just not looking for a relationship right now. don’t give up though. I’m sure someone will love you back one day.
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No, as you’ll see, you can enjoy my incoherent ramblings all over this site. It just so happens that you are the second highest contributor to the website this month (by a very large margin) and very opinionated so you are kinda hard to avoid. Oh, and I mean that in the most platonic way possible.
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it wasn’t in reply to you lol.
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hence the @? in the beginning of my comment.
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might want to learn to follow a reply chain properly lol.
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Ah yes, I see. Sorry, to be honest I saw “@?” and just ignored it since I didn’t understand it. I guess people who do that are the reason shows like Fringe struggle with ratings. If you have to spend more than 3 seconds to comprehend something, ignore it.
On a side note….LESS THAN AN HOUR TO GO BEFORE OUR UNIVERSE GETS DESTROYED! HOORAY! The Mayan calendar didn’t account for television seasons and sweeps week and the like. Silly Mayans!
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Ha! For some reason, Pinkner & Wyman sound a little dirty to begin with, so I’ll go bleach my brain now.
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I want to watch Fringe with Lance Reddick
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Hell yeah lol.
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Here’s my theory: Bell has been doing all these “experiments” from day 1 trying to figure out which species can either survive, be morphed / engineered to survive, in a new “world” or “Universe” created by him. Walter was right about the goal – but it wasn’t Jones – it was always Bell.
The kicker is that the alternative to foiling Bell’s plan is to let the Obserber-verse happen. Someone will have seen the future – Bell, September, Olivia, – somebody and know that it ain’t pretty (Observer-land). Bell offers a way out, but at what cost? They choose to stop Bell and his plans, end up with Observer-ville and we segue nicely into Season 5.
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Good theory, but I am not too crazy about the whole entombed in amber for twenty years thing, no Olivia in the amber. Where is she????? If these promos are not being entirely misleading, it seems that Season 5 is going to be a totally new show, no lab, no cow, no alt-verse, no whatever . . . . . *sigh* I guess I just don’t like radical change.
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I don;t think the writers or John Noble would do a 13 episode arc with Walter being the sane, brilliant, almost jerk-like, Walter. Noble loves the Walter who does NOT have full access to his brain too much, as we all do. We all love the Walterism’s, etc. My hunch is you see a lost-style flash back / flash forward type of scenario for these 13 episodes. It would give the actors characters and a story to play in the “Observer-ville future” and also their own characters we have all grown to love as the lead up to how we get there. It could go like this: Episodes 1-4 are present time with some flash-forward, but not much – just to tease us. Episodes 5-10 are the meat of the final season and really get to this whole idea of how we get there, consequences, etc. Then the final three episodes deal with the ultimate war – how to win back our planet from the Observers using the combined power of Olivia, Peter, Walter, (maybe Walternate and alt-verse as well, but maybe not), Astrid, Broyles (who will turn “traitor” for us once he realizes what is going on – should be an emotional point of Season 5) Nina, and perhaps even Bell himself toward the end. Thats a lot of firepower. Just makes me excited thinking about all the possibilities!!! This 13-episode Season 5 is PERFECT. No time to screw around, all red-meat (hopefully), and a total RUSH to end the series on. Plus they get to end it on their own terms and in a timing they know about – which is so huge for writers. Very happy for them as well as the cast who made the magic happen. To say I’m stoked would be an understatement.
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You know, I kept telling myself that with Lost, and then they just chucked all scientific explanation (as much of a stretch as some of it all was, you still could continue the Science vs. Faith debate) out the window and went straight up religion for the final season. That sucked.
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I meant to say I kept telling myself that giving the writers and end point would make for the most fulfilling end possible, but I was wrong. I actually think that the writers did the whole purgatory thing so that they could seem smart since they could say, “we told you the ISLAND wasn’t purgatory, the flash sideways world was! Ha! We got you stupid people who caught on during season 1!”
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I gotta say I really liked the Lost ending. I kind of dislike how people look at a plot that heads toward a faith aspect and look at that as a copout or something to be dismissed. It did have a faith vs. science aspect to it but would everyone have liked it better if it ended with a formula for a chemical reaction? I think people related more to faith than in a science aspect of the ending. It was always about the characters and their relationships, much like Fringe.
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I didn’t hate the ending, but the whole Jacob, Man in Black storyline and purgatory really had a very strong Faith aspect to it. The final season was the only one that didn’t attempt to counter with some scientific (as far fetched as it got) basis. I liked the ending and felt satisfied, but I always enjoyed them attempting to ground the show’s religious aspects. “God help me” if Fringe goes off on that type of religious tangent in its final season.
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Remember when they finally realized what all the “pattern events” were doing ? In 1.20 TMTOOE, Olivia makes the connections in front of Broyles and Nina and draws all those “clusters” showing the Pattern to be like lines emanating from central hubs or points. They are very straightforward …. like ferris wheels. They all have multiple “spokes”, but all those spokes meet at a central point or hub within each cluster.
However, in Season 4 … in 4.06 ATWLB, the guy who is causing the time slips with his machine (which Peter experiences dramatically) causes events to start happening as well … and those events form a pattern. But this pattern isn’t like the S1-S3 cluster/ferris wheel pattern. This is a fibonacci spiral type of pattern ….. one “line”, emanating out from a central point. Not multiple spokes …. just ONE line progressing and growing according to the golden ratio.
I don’t know how much you followed the Season 1 viral games and web clues and extended universe type of stuff, but Fib spirals were always part of the “clues” extensively. So much so, that Walter’s lab was shown to be based on a fibonacci spiral pattern. And references to the golden ratio and fib sequence, etc, are in the S1-S3 timeline.
I always thought we would see the Pattern take on that shape … but it never did. When Season 4 came along, and we finally see it emerge in relation to time slips, time reversals, and Peter’s erasure/re-emergence …. I thought “ah-ha ! This explains the new pattern we will see start to form !” Where as in the S1-S3 timeline, everything was “contained” …. all roads leading to central hub points, beginning and end points in other words …. Season 4 will begin to show us a different type of “timeline”: one that has a single thread to it, which grows in a way different than the S1-S3 pattern of events. What I’ve wondered, is if you took the “events” that have happened thus far in Season 4 and plotted them out, if they would show us a Fib Pattern. Likewise, I wondered if you took the events specifically where Peter intervened, and plotted them out, if they would form a Fib pattern.
Imo, if you did something like this with the storyline, it would “save” the show in some ways. It would tie back to the previous timelines, and show why they “had to be destroyed” in order for this new one to emerge. It would show the competing patterns, and why Peter is the necessary “element” which allows the new “pattern” to form and spiral on towards infinity. Because one timeline would slowly culminate in a terminal pattern, another timeline would be able to keep going and going with no “end”, using Peter as a sort of relic which facilitates a Fibonacci Timeline. Previously, Olivia would be fated like everyone else. Now, she is free to use her ability to help “create”. Thus destiny, fate, and “freedom” could be explained both through “faith” but also within equations, ratio’s, patterns, etc …..
Just a thought
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OMG!!!!!!! NO LOST!!!!!!!!!!!! That show was so good in the beginning and then it got soooooooooooo convoluted. It was doomed. It was totally ruined.
I am not comparing life’s disappointments to a TV show, BUT if Fringe jumps the shark like Lost did, it will be so sad after being so invested in the show and the team all these years.
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You can’t be on a Fringe board and complain about how convoluted Lost was surely?
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I stand by my opinion. For me, Fringe has not yet reached the “doomed” point; it is getting close, but not quite there yet.
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I have to agree. I think we are almost there, but not quite yet.
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Thank you Shidey – good to know I am not alone. On pins and needles to see what is going to happen tonight.
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I gotta admit I am one of those suckers where they would have to do something so drastic for me to think of this show as doomed for me.
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Bell to Walter: “Even if you deny it now, you’ve always been playing God.” — *pauses to reflect back on himself* — “I am.”
The directness of this statement … man … especially the “I am” part. I don’t think he’s just saying “I am” like “I am god” …. rather, he’s directly referencing the name: “I AM”.
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These two work so well together.
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