More Fringe Comic-Con interviews have hit the web. J.H. Wyman, Joshua Jackson and Lance Reddick discuss the final season in the players below.
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Lance Reddick:
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Why are people still asking about the Pattern? It was answered by the end of Season 1 or early Season 2. It was simply the fringe events being caused by the universe rip. Once we knew about the alt-U, the pattern was explained. Pretty frustrating having to keep addressing this. Don’t people pay attention?
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I agree about the Pattern, but ZFT? Explained? What Season did I miss if it was explained?
We never got any real answers.
Was Jones really a part of it? What was William Bell’s role? Why did they suddenly disappear after Season 1 (makes no sense with either Jones constellation)? What was their “plan” with the war (with S4, it makes even less sense except we say “Nobody knew the truth”)? etc.
But my favourite thing is still Peter’s deal with Nina in Season 1. Sure, Nina would never come back to that
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Never understood the ZFT thing either. They made us think Belly would be a big bad, and the AU would destroy us. But, nothing of this really happenned. God complex my ass.
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@Lincless
I think it would be really great if nina ask peter in S5 if he could do her a favour and peter would just say something like “yeah, of course, I still owe you one”
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Lincless:
“Why did they suddenly disappear after Season 1?
What was their “plan” with the war (with S4, it makes even less sense…)”
Why do you seek sense, grasshopper?
The answer sufficient to all your questions is:
42.
Not to mention Life, the Universe and Everything.
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I thought they explained that too but not directly. ZFT is the organization which is Bell heads for whom Jones works in the new timeline and was probably left out of in the original, which is why he was trying to get to Bell, which decided to respond to the collapsing universes by creating an arc and a new universe to sail it too (which is what all the experiemnts were about in season 1 except for those done by walternate and random scientists). ZFT is Bell’s organization I think and I also believe that, given Bell’s intent on preventing humanity from destroying the world and his knowledge of/desire to combat the observers, the war the manuscript refered to is not only that between over here and over there, but the one between our universe and the futureverse from which the observers hail.
It might not all add up but theshow isnt over yet and that’s just my take on it.
also, yeah the pattern was explained as the pattern on a map of events the observers were viewing which were fringe science events taking place at weak spots between the two worlds. [I have a theory that the reason they were observing these and coming to our time now in the show (2015) is because these events were Bell/others doing experiments on how to prevent the universes from collapsing/how to create a new universe both of which which might destroy/prevent their particular future from happening, which, knowing Bell/what he knows about them, might have been his goal all along]
anyway thats just my take on ZFT/how they explained it but I’m looking forward to seeing what happens and whether or no they bring it back up or the pattern (or any of that awesome S1 stuff) for any reason
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Don’t you think that 47 is more Fringe number …
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I’m not sure where to put this comment, but I think in response to this batch of interviews may make sense.
I’ve been thinking about the whole ‘you may be surprised what aspects of the previous season may still be in play.’ that Wyman keeps talking about. Well, after watching the season 5 comic con trailer, one question that has been asked for the life of the series is who are the rogue observers? Will we see them again?
Well, I think we will. I believe they may be the human’s who work with the observers in the future. They send the rogues back to retrieve those beacons because the beacons seem to be important as a locator of sort for the Observers.
Just a guess.
Even as I enjoy the summer months, I really can’t wait for September (the Observer and month)!
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I like your theory. I remember reading in one of the recent interviews that aspects of S1 will be very important for this last season, and I can see how that would make sense.
I’ve always thought things would loop back around to the beginning somehow…maybe not that the series will end where it started with the characters in the same place, but that with the time loops and shifts we will see things like this play out.
I’m excited as well….but it’s also starting to become really bittersweet.
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i like that theory S8 and I agree S17 that it wsa kinda getting bittersweat, but now that we know it’s ending, theres a direction, things are getting focused Im really stoked about S1 being important in unexpected ways.
also, if the beacon is how the observers find things, if theres a fringepredict for how season 5 episode 1 opens (even though I dont necessarily want it to happen like this) I think a cool scene would be a shot of a field with 2015 indicated at thebottom of the screen where all of a sudden hundreds of beacons start popping out of the ground and then observers with them, that;s fun to imagine.
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It would be a neat tie-up if the Rogue Observers turned out to be the scouts for the Observer Occupation!
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Wyman almost let something slip when he said:
“Oh that’s why — he didn’t answer that earlier”.
I’m not the greatest reader of body language but you can tell by his facial expression that he realised what he was about to say for a split second and pulled himself back.
The question is, is he referring to himself as someone who didn’t answer a question, or a character in the show who didn’t answer a question?
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Hm, Pattern? Have we even HEARED that word since season 1?
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Has Josh Jackson been watching the same show as me? Have I unwittingly phased into an alternate universe myself?
“Peter erased himself from existence” Uh, unless they’re going to expand on the season 3 future, no he didn’t. September erased the adult Peter by not saving him from drowning in Reiden Lake as a child.
This issue of Peter’s ‘sacrifice’ comes up again and again with no resolution.
If the writers show season 3′s future Peter being somehow instrumental in stopping September from saving his younger self (which so far they have neither showed or even implied), then fine, Peter did sacrifice his own existence.
But so far at least, all we know is that our Peter stepped into The Machine hoping he was going to stop Walternate from opening vortexes in our universe. He knew he might die, but it wasn’t a certainty – he had no idea what The Machine would actually do to or with him.
And we don’t know (yet or ever) what season 3′s future Peter thought the ‘repercussions’ of altering time would be. We can guess, which is pointless, but we don’t know for sure what he meant.
As to Wyman’s interview:
I don’t like to be spoon-fed with a story, but nor do I like it when it becomes clear the storyteller/s are making it up on the fly, while trying to bamboozle me into thinking that he/they had it ‘planned all along” as Wyman is trying to bs us in his interview.
“No more tricks!” Translation: “Stop bugging me about things we never resolved and never will! It’s the Emperor’s New Clothes Effect – you’re dumb if you point out the problems! I’ve got no idea how to resolve them in 13 episodes, and I’d forgotten about them anyway, the bong can do that!”
Some of the plot elements are like bait and switch.
When we start to think about all the plot threads left dangling, they say “Forget that! Look at this cool new idea!”, and we drool, “Oooh! cool new idea, all shiny! We like shiny, yes we do! Wait, what was we just asking? uhh… uhh… Oh, never mind, here is shiny new thing, yippee!!!” and (hopefully for Wyman) forget.
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Totally agree about the ZFT manuscript referencing the Observers. I’ve thought that for awhile — if you read the manuscript and listen to what Grayson says in 1.19, you can see the set up between S1 and the Observer ruled future. I love how it all ties together.
My guess is also that Bell will turn out to be an ally — his attempt at destroying the universes was probably to prevent the Observer takeover. He seemed to have knowledge of the future in the S4 finale.
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Oops. This was supposed to be a reply to Matt. Not sure what went wrong…
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I don’t think that preventing observepocalipse is worth destroying the universes!
), and it does have some… signs. For example, Bell refers to the invader ad “he” – I don’t suppose anyone has seen a female observer?
But I do think you’re right about the ZFT. I read it multiple times (I’m a cortexiphan kid after all
To quote ZFT: “… and that existance of all beings could be allowed to continue. Alas, that is not to be.”
However, a lot of lines from ZFT reffer more to Altverse people than Observers. And I don’t think they predicted the observer invasion as early as middle season 1.
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Is there really a ZFT that you can buy and read?
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I think Kid is just referencing the parts that have been shown or read on the show. I wish there were one we could buy and read!
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They said at Comic-Con that we will find out this season why all of the Observers are male, so hopefully…
I was also thinking it could be something like they genetically modified themselves to take pleasure seeking out of their nature. Like, in TEOAT, September says they are a future iteration of humans, so I guess they were human once and maybe are evolved in some way from humans.
They don’t seem to really taste or to enjoy worldly pleasures, so my guess is that in modifying themselves to not feel the need to seek pleasure, they reproduce in some sort of nonsexual way, thus no female Observers…
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that would make sense but how do they reproduce?
I really hope we will get answers to those questions!
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sorry, I overread “they reproduce in some sort of nonsexual way” the first time^^
but I would still like to know how they do it exactly…well actually not
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Maybe they’re immortal. There would be no need for reproduction.
And Jeff Pinkner once answered a question about female observers with another question: “Who says they are male?”.
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well, they do age (december for example looks much older that the other ones) so I don’t thin they are immortal.
and even if they couldn’t die from natural causes, they can still die if they get shot or something like that.
Pinkners answer is definitely interesting…
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i always saw the observers episodes in season 4 as an what if ?like peters what if ? when inside machine, i like how this show keeps you believing anythings possible
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