WHAT GOES UP MAY NOT HAVE TO COME DOWN ON AN ALL-NEW “FRINGE” FRIDAY, MARCH 11, ON FOX
The Fringe Team investigates a group of thieves who can break the laws of gravity. Meanwhile, Walter attempts to delay the damage he’s caused to the fabric of the universe in the all-new “Os” episode of FRINGE airing Friday, March 11 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (FR 3.16) (TV-14 L, V)
Cast: Anna Torv as Olivia Dunham; Joshua Jackson as Peter Bishop; John Noble as Walter Bishop; Lance Reddick as Phillip Broyles; Blair Brown as Nina Sharp; Jasika Nicole as Astrid Farnsworth
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Can’t watch this episode because it’s not on until 12:30 and i’ll be in bed (cause i’ve got the SAT tomorrow). It’s not on because of a basketball game that was never advertised by fox, so i’m currently p***** o**. (please excuse my language) i guess i’ll just watch it tomorrow on hulu, thanks for nothing fox!
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Bellie. Olivia. I can truly say I didn’t see that one coming. It may be just goofy enough to work.
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Please tell me this is supposed to be funny
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That was a crazyyy episode – I had to shake my head a couple times. The ringing of the bell to summon Bell – a little cheesy. And now we have Bellovia or Olivell?? That’s crazy even for Fringe. 5/10. I didn’t enjoy this episode, perhaps because Subject 13 was so good and this episode was…oh so pale in comparison. My favourite character this episode was Nina – “Belly”…”No, it’s still me”…LOL.
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The ringing of the bell is NOT cheesy. One of the parts cut OUT of the broadcast of the season finale of Season 1 was Bellie saying “…I’m william bell!” followed by him RINGING THE BELL and laughing. Later, the bell is rung by Walter to trigger the hippie chick’s fantastic voyage…only it triggers Olivia’s memories of Bell. Her memories of Bell END with…the ringing of the bell.
This is deliberate. They’ve been seeding this image for a long time, since season 1 (although I have no idea why they cut the bell ringing from Season 1′s finale…it is on the blu-ray DVD.)
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lol yeah but his name is Bell, so I think that’s why he said “I’m William Bell”.
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“One of the parts cut OUT of the broadcast of the season finale of Season 1 was Bellie saying “…I’m william bell!” followed by him RINGING THE BELL and laughing. Later, the bell is rung by Walter to trigger the hippie chick’s fantastic voyage…only it triggers Olivia’s memories of Bell. Her memories of Bell END with…the ringing of the bell.”
In full agreement that this is another season 1 callback. I can’t wait to hear William explain when and how he did it next week.
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I understood the bell to be a significant prop. I assumed the bell would be the soul “trigger.”
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Bellivia;)
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I only liked the end, because of Anna Torv;s great acting.Actually she saves
the character Olivia.
Olivia this episode was reduced to smiling at peter, making looked like a fool , our very clever FBI agent who outclevers everyone.
Olivia has become more like a plotdevice for walter and peter, hopefully next week Anna as Bellivia does get a chance to be more then that opposite walter.
And then please our old Olivia back, clever, sarcastic (that does not go away even if your happy), and BAMF.
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she smiled WAY too much in this episode
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wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to much…. like a lovesick puppy….
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Er… She’s happy, I guess. My only problem with it is that as some time has passed from 6B and the beggining of their relationship, we don’t know exactly how she has handled all that happened. But hey, if she’s that happy than it must mean she’s over “it” now.
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I agree with Lys. Remember she was pretty happy and smily when she was with John Scott in pilot. I guess we are just so used to her serious face because she’s been stressed out (to put it in the minimal level) for the past two years.
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I love how Olivia was laughing and smiling , I love how she was really trying to live her life with the man which she loves despite that he had his secrets despite that if she didn’t jump in the bed with him he maybe not going to tell her the truth because he is working for his petavagends , but I really enjoyed this ep , started with a big laugh ( Walter and that man from Lost it was priceless scene and laughed hard ) and ended with also a laugh . Peter’s face was priceless as what the hell is that ? am I fooled again who’s this ?
I give it 9.85/10 .
For how Bell did enter Olivia’s body … obviously .. Olivia is getting FULL ANGRY about what she did just find and that Bell found a weakness in her to enter her , Olivia wasn’t going to react any good about what Peter did do and that’s gave Bell the chance to be there .
I love Anna Torv .. she is really really brilliant amazing .. and actress de class .
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Did anyone catch the line where they were talking about bringing together two heavy elements to make a new element that defies the laws of nature? And in the son’s room, many, many red/blue/yellow references. I think they are giving us a clue that there is not yet a third universe but the two current universes are going to spawn a new “Yellow” universe when they are brought together (in what way they are brought together has yet to be seen). They seem to be giving us so many reasons to go there.
Count Screwloose, this is right up your alley!
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There were many red/blue/yellow/green references in the room. Especially the poster behind his bed to the left (our left, his right). The colors are getting curiouser, and curiouser. Looking forward to see where it all ends up.
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I just looked at his room and there’s no green, yellow only appears on one stripe of a poster and one stripe on the mat. There’s also some blue and red stripes on the poster and a red lamp on his side. Most of the room is brown and purple, including the mat.
I don’t think there are any hints there.
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The music was a bit different and there seemed to be far more green in the opening credits.
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I’d be lying if I said I didn’t watch every episode for hints that I’m right or wrong concerning my hunch that the two universii (that’s the proper plural, right?) were both originally half of a single one, and that the purpose of the Vacuum was always to keep both halves apart. Long story short, original universe ended up in a horrible place and was to be avoided at all costs.
Maybe I’ll write it up somewhere before the last ep, just to see how close I come. Hey, I called the purpose of the bell as soon as Nina got it! I’m sure I wasn’t the only one, but hey!
At the moment I’m sticking with it, although I think I’ve changed my mind about Walternate knowing exactly what the Vacuum does. Otherwise, I think we’re headed for a monster mash in 3.22. The most fascinating question concerning this, though, is: how would the audience feel about a season of the show in which a) we’re in a world we’ve never seen before and b) we’ve never really met any of these characters before! Not in the way they were originally meant to exist, at any rate.
It would be an incredibly gutsy way to go, but it could also be ratings suicide. But what a way to go!
Right now, the thing that has occupied me most is that in “6B,” we were given a very basic clue as to where the writers got Sam Weiss’ name. It’s rather late in the thread for that episode here, but I did mention it and I think it’s probably a very important clue because I think anything having to do with Weiss is very important.
I have some definite thoughts about it, but they’re hard to get into without getting long-winded. But:
1) The man who Weiss’ name is connected to was one of the most famous people in the 20th Century.
2) His last name (not his real name) can be spelled out using the features of the face on the cover of SEVEN SUNS.
3) One of the things he crusaded against has just become a major plot point.
4) The name brings up father/son issues.
5) The first letters in the phrase “Soul Magnets” are SM, that is to say, an S and an inverted W.
Which begs the question: What if the William Bell speaking through Olivia is not William Bell at all? And why?
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“I’d be lying if I said I didn’t watch every episode for hints that I’m right or wrong concerning my hunch that the two universii (that’s the proper plural, right?) were both originally half of a single one, and that the purpose of the Vacuum was always to keep both halves apart. Long story short, original universe ended up in a horrible place and was to be avoided at all costs.”
I with you all the way here. I think that is the what we were getting a “glimpse” of in the last episode (this whole other place that is to be avoided).
Now regarding your theory on if this is the “real” William Bell we have just tapped into…Well you may be on to something. it certainly has me anxious for next week to hear Bellivia explain the process by which he ended up stowing-away inside of Olivia. All kinds of craziness and cookiness of the good and bad can ensue with Bellie on the loose in Olivia. If it really is Bell. Could it be some kind of “recording” of Bell? Like an ‘I Robot’ kind of thing?
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Don’t trust Sam Weiss…
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WOW! i didn’t read the whole thread for 6B so I lost your theory until now, it’s quite interesting, you connect really good things and it makes sense, really, you are definetly thinking outside the box.
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Pauli exclusion principle.
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about the combining two elements thing- i think it’s foreshadowing:
imo, they’re talking about olivia and peter. the guy said he combined two rare elements (peter as in not from this universe and olivia as subject 13) and somehow a new molecule appeared (guess what). lighter than air (a very special one)
he goes on saying “it should never have worked, it was accident- a miracle”.
of course, it should never have worked bc they were not supposed to meet each other in the blueverse.
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I don’t think it has a secondary meaning to it, but if it did then it would be better to align it with the idea of Peter and Fauxlivia as a legitimate couple.
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combining the two elements could also stand for both universes merging into a new one
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i wouldn’t say olivia and peter, but walter and bell, as they before have achieved much more before as a team then walternate alone.
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Wait a moment…
I wonder if that’s what they’re planning on doing; transferring Bell’s memories onto Walter?
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That’s not bad, you know… They’ve made a huge fuss about how inadequate Walter feels about not having the intellectual wherewithal to save the unraveling universes. What a huge temptation it would be for Walter to have them join forces as one intellect! He might very well feel it’s their only chance. Hmmm…
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I loved it, thought it was a great episode!
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OK- that was an interesting episode. There were definately hints and clues that I need to dissect, but clearly this is driving towards the season finale. I am glad that Petah fessed up about the shapeshifters. Too bad we did not have much time to see much of a reaction from her before she became Bellivia.
Not a spectacular epsiode, but definately necessary as part of the story.
Nina- so glad you were around. Your hair color is hot stuff!!!!
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well…that was unexpected.
I…really don’t know lol solid episode, feel better coming out of it than I did 6b, though still annoyed the ending to ‘Reciprocity’ with Peter being weaponized has been ignored – thankfully the shape-shifter disks was a call back to it.
hmm, yeah…that ending.
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“I…really don’t know lol solid episode”
HAHAHA! You said it! Yeah “Solid” hits the nail on the head on so many levels with this episode
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lol nice.
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This episode had a little of everything: romance (bleck), sci-fi, comedy (come on Olivia becoming Bellivia IS funny), and dare I say—horror (lovely view of a guys leg being sawed off for tissue samples). I even liked that Astrid got a little jab in (“I went to Quantico for this?”).
Hmmm, unlike the day after “Subject 13″ I have a full day tomorrow. So it’ll be a day or so before I get a second viewing. Who am I kidding? I am just going to make an all nighter of it and watch it again. Who needs sleep when you are looking for Fringe Easter Eggs?!
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Olivia had a lot of pep in her step this episode! I don’t know I feel about Olivia taking on Bell’s persona…the idea is kinda corny. Just my opinion!
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Funny little easter egg: When Olivia and Peter are walking to his secret lab, there’s a sign on the wall behind her, over her head, that says “receiver” with a red arrow pointing at her. Maybe it’s just coincidence, but I thought it was appropriate given what happened to her just minutes later.
I have to say Olivia’s Nimoy growl was fairly off-putting. I’m not wild about her channeling yet another person. It feels cheap, somehow. But I love the show and Anna Torv is incredible, so I’ll deal. Just hope this stint is a one-episode thing.
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I saw the “receiver” sign, but initially thought it was aimed toward Peter. Of course after seeing the end, I am sure it was a little hint that Olivia would soon be receiving some William Bell vibrations.
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Olivia should just make her peace with th fact that she needs to quit being agent Dunham and become medium dunham (insert suspense music here) really, just how many people can fit in one brain? This episode was priceless!!!
Kudos and my sincerest thanks to the writers
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Hahahh, I’m still laughing at the ending. It was just so ridiculous. I mean, I kind of predicted it with those promo pics of her in the white lab coat, but to see it actually happen was just so much funnier then I imagined.
Anna Torv’s Nimoy/Bell impression was pretty good actually!
Besides the ending, the case was meh. But it’s cool that people are finding those blue/red/yellow verse metaphors in the case. Interesting idea.
I was also happy to see Olivia happy again. We haven’t seen her smile this much since John Scott was alive, so yay for in love Olive.
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Anna Torv was twitter’s trending topic worldwide! And William Bell (trending USA).
That’s good.
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Anna Torv trended for 5 hours and 27 mins. Fringe fans pushed this as long as possible. Lasted in Brazil for a lot longer. Well done Fringies…..you guys are awesome!!!
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Was I the only one that was really hoping William Bell would take over Olivia’s body when she and Peter were kissing? XD
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…I’m going to go with “Yes.”
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Ha… ha… can’t unring that Bell. Peter just got a huge bucket of cold water poured on his libido.
No, Chiquita, you’re not the only one with an evil sense of humor. It would have been very funny if that bell had been run at an “inopportune” time, e.g., “Good Morning Olivia” says Peter in a dreamy half-awake voice. “Nice to see you again Peter” says BellLivia in a growly voice.
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Walter and Hurley sharing a bong in the Massive Dynamic video surveillance room. One of the top ten best scenes of the show.
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It was great to see them together
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epic
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glad finally got sum answers on why peter killed the shapeshifters, and proud that peter finally told someone about killin the shapeshifters, i was kinda expectin bell to posses olivia, because he used the bell to ring olivia to get to the other side, this was an alright episode, maybe walter was still high to think nina was william bell
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I was also glad that Peter fess up. Which lead me to another thought.
Nina showed up at one point with documents from MD about the shape-shifters. In season one Peter asked Nina for info on Olivia’s birthday, Nina implied at the time that if she gave the location they needed that he would owe her one. What if she’s called in that favor and asked Peter to obtain those disks there by explaining Peter actions a couple of episodes back. I’m not saying that Peter didn’t agree with the plan knowing as he’s stated before that he would prefer not being just reactive (I think he’d said something like that to Broyles before I’m not sure)
Maybe I’m way off, just a thought.
I liked the episode. Loved the opening!
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Who knew that Walter was so promiscuous in his younger years. A Casanova. LOL ! Catching the eye of Pat Nixon, having a fling with Yoko with John’s blessing. Talk about sowing your wild oats.
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I was thinking that, too! Reminded me that it was the Nixon White House that tried to get Lennon kicked out of the U.S. Since we know John never died “over there,” I wonder if they were more successful in that universe in deporting him, thus preventing his assassination? Maybe Pat’s eye for Bishop fueled Nixon’s distaste for acid-drenched youth culture!
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If William Bell is occupying Olivia, where did she go? Could that be the reason why next week’s episode is taking place over there, that Olivia was kicked out of her own mind to that of her counter part Over There? That way Olivia would learn about the baby and when Bell would vacate her mind and she comes back, she could deliver the news to Peter. Of course this begs the question where would Fauxlivia go in the mean time…
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Oops, not in next weeks episode..
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Hmm. Neat idea. that would be interesting… but hard to justify. Although…it would explain why, in the press release they say say “Olivia” when they are describing what’s happening over there in the 3.18 press release, rather than “Fauxlivia” or “alternate Olivia”… umm… am i grasping at straws?
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I have to say that i really loved this episode. Loved the science. Loved Walters vulnerability and urgency to have his lab partner Bellie back. Loved the teeny bit of Polivia that we got. (i know some people arent happy with this…buts its a necessary plot line and im enjoying while it lasts) Loved the ending….Anna did a great job of picking up the cadence in Nimoys voice. Hats of to you Anna. I would have loved to have been on set during that scene…..i hope the outakes are in the season 3 dvd release. This show just keeps getting better and better…..and i would have thought that this was impossible to do cos i have loved it from the very first episode…..and that was OUTSTANDING!
Anyone else see the red robot in the sons room….was that a shoutout to the redverse…or simply a plug for BadRobot?
Loved the shout out to Unearthed ep re a woman channeling a man.
Loved the bleeding eyes which took me straight back to the diner and the exploding heads.
And the wheelchair….was that a little nod to Brown Betty?
Awesome ep Mr Wyman and Pinkner. Im lovin season 3.
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There have been so many robots in the set decor this whole season, I wonder it they’re foreshadowing something. A permanent housing for Bell? Peter’s fate post-machine?
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Sigh. not so excited that Olivia is gone again… but it definitely makes me like Peter’s shapeshifter moves a little bit more. Because if there’s one thing that Belly’s appearance highlights for me (enter Belly, and Olivia exits to… where?), it’s how much the younger generation(s) are the pawns of the older generations in this game… Olivia and Peter more than anybody. I’m glad that they’re showing a little bit of proactivity with Peter, although I don’t really understand why they don’t write Olivia trying to get ahead of things.
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In Marionette Olivia wanted to go back to work, the writers have forgotten that part, I am suprised that she was allowed to use her gun this episode, but hey peter of course is not only the high tech guy, but also knows about substances, and jumps from heights.
The jumping etc is Olivia’s job, so how would peter feel if she as Olivia would dissect his machine? Ever since they wrote aout Charlie for peter/jackson, peter has become everything, far to much the superagent, with the lowpoint in Entrada, that he shoots someone right through the head from that distance without training.
I am not a fan of Polivia, but if it has to be then please equal, but not Olivia giving everything and peter just taking as the socalled cool guy.
He still lies to her after all these weeks?
Olivia is the one taking the risks , he rubs her back thinking of something/someone else ? He freaks of her smiling? And so on.
Writers this woman was in a relationship with at least TWO guys much older then herself, please make peter work for her not the
other way around. Olivia does not need peter, but peter needs Olivia.
And I am very pleased that Anna Torv has been trending on TT, she is brilliant and what I admire so much she is not afraid to take huge risks; she already did that by daring to play an introverted woman , and now taking on Bell.
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Oh my god, olivia’s fans Vs. Peter’s fans in war again? That’s so silly… They are working and trying to find solutions for all the problems. Peter wanna help Olivia, his father (and the kidnap) caused all of this, so is natural what Peter is doing.
Why people can’t watch the show and enjoy all the characters, they are a team, they are not competing or rivaling.
Olivia did lie to Peter. Peter did lie to Olivia. He at least is confessing. He did forgive her, and I believe that she will too.
I’m sick of this jealousy, I don’t think that insignificant things do matter, but maybe I’m weird.
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Seriously! I’m experiencing a “GleeBee from IMdB” deja vu, but this time it’s about Olivia and Anna Torv instead.
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I don’t come to Fringe message boards much any more b/c of this silly Peter sucks BS… Anna Torv did an amazing job last night. Peter was just along for the ride. And he at least has the guts to tell her difficult things eventually because he does love her.
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Because if there’s one thing that Belly’s appearance highlights for me (enter Belly, and Olivia exits to… where?), it’s how much the younger generation(s) are the pawns of the older generations in this game… Olivia and Peter more than anybody.
Great observation! This seems to be the case, but I’d also say Walter has become a pawn, too. I’m not so sure, we should believe Bell, when he said Walter asked him to remove pieces of his brain. What if he did it to make Walter easier to manipulate?
although I don’t really understand why they don’t write Olivia trying to get ahead of things.
I don’t really see the difference with previous episodes or seasons. She’s more proactive in some episodes and sometimes less so. She was very proactive in “6B” and she was her usual professional self in this one. It’s not like the criminal was that action-prone, either.
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When I’m thinking about Olivia being more pro-active, I’m thinking specifically of her promise to the other Broyles, who sacrificed his life to help her get home. She promised him that she would find another way, and so I was hoping to see her working on that — getting ahead of the game maybe by trying to get help focusing her powers (massive dynamic definitely has resources in that department) or doing research or something just to show that she hasn’t forgotten. It would make the continuity a little better and be more in character for her, I think. I guess I’m just tired of the team waiting for cases to come to them (yay Peter for doing a little more!) At least it makes sense for Peter and Olivia to try to do more — Peter because of everything he said in Os and the fact that he’s actually from there, and Olivia because she has spent time on the other side and seen that there are decent people over there.
But I do agree that she is always on top of things in her cases — she’s a superstar agent and I so love her competence. I’m just thinking about the whole “one universe will survive” arc…
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Also — excellent point about Walter and Bell — I think Bell is as shady at least, as Nina. there’s no way of knowing who’s side he’s on (besides his own) and what his goals really are. So yeah it seems the pawns are being moved inter-generationally too. I think someone mentioned a while ago that there are these different layers — Sam Weiss and Bell and the Observers are definitely higher up in the knowledge and power department than anyone on our Fringe team it seems, including Walter.
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Also, Nina did not look too happy when William told her about Peter and Olivia. I smell something funny. Were we lead down the wrong path in the first season to suspect Massive Dynamics was up to no good? Let’s not forget that Bell was out and about in the Alt verse working for Walternate and probably building Massive Dynamics with Walternate’s stolen discoveries.
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I lolled hard at Bellivia. I don’t think this is too crazy for Fringe. Full body channeling is a pretty old metaphysical subject and interesting to see. I’m sure they won’t bother trying to explain it beyond one of Walter’s vague Batman-esque descriptions. but that’s okay. It makes sense that Olivia can do it, having quasi-psychic cortexiphan powahs
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Even though it’s not unlike Fringe to do something like the ending to ‘Os’, it was pretty strange actually seeing it.
It sure has my vote for the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen on Fringe lol
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Olivia did drink tea with William Bell at the WTC. Walter explain something like this and I did remember this moment (season 1 finale).
I really liked this episode, however I did miss more deepness about the soul magnets, but let’s wait the next Friday to judge if they will give us.
The romance was well dosed, sweet and nothing like Peter and Fauxlivia. So good to see Olivia smiling again, both happy, at least for now.
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Olivia did drink tea with William Bell at the WTC. Walter explain something like this and I did remember this moment (season 1 finale).
Yes, she did. It seems he put soul magnets in her tea. I hope Walter is not happy about that, as much as he misses his old friend.
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This explains the split second shot of Olivia with the tea in one of those recent explanatory videos…they were cluing us in.
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thank you for saying that! walter was explaining and I was screaming at the screen: The tea with Bell! How do you like your tea?! i mean that was easy, and I really like that you are this positive with the show, you are realistic and positive.
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I found the episode highly enjoyable with those two crazy kids being happy for once, although, sadly, it didn’t last long… and they were their usual effective selves, what’s not to love? The case with the floating corpses was not too shabby, either. It’s been a while, since I’ve liked the case of the week, but the one in this episode was quite good.
Major kudos to Peter for coming clean about the shapeshifters and that leap to save that kid.
Hilarity (or outrage from some) about Olivia’s possession aside, I’ve just realized, what Bell said: he has the key to decode the shapeshifter disks at MD! How shady is that man? So not only did he create the shapeshifters and then handed that technology to Walternate, but he programmed the thingies… and we all know, what they do. He has some explaining to do, so I hope next episode is not only fun, but also informative.
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Of course, William Bell designed the shapeshifters, so I think he will help Peter unblock the data!! I can’t wait for next Friday…
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Posession. Olivia as a vessel for Bellie’s ‘energy’. Yes, goofy. I really hopes it will work in the next episode, but i’d rather seen a new character added to the cast of regulars (Charlie’s place could be filled up as a new regular on the show) for William Bell’s essence.
Using Olivia is quite logical, since she is the one (as been stated from S1 on) who can act as a permanent doorstop between realities.
However, she’s already busy as an FBI agent, as a centerpoint to the Fringe division, as Petah’s lover, and now she als must play the Bellie inside her.
Please writers, transfer Bellie to a new regular and let Olivia do her own thing and agenda, she’s quite busy enough as she is. It’s better for the show IMHO.
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I really don’t understand all the nagging that is going on here in the comment section (and has been in a while)!
Like – first people complained that Olivia is smiling too little – now she is smiling too much and so on and so on… and that is just one example.
I just love the show.
I love the characters, the actors – they do such a fantastic job! All of them!
And the writers – they also do a fantastic job! I always hoped that Peter and Olivia get together and now I am happy. I don’t have any expectations for the rest of the season, I just lean back and enjoy “the ride”. Wherever the storyline is going, I’ll keep watching with joy and in awe.
My compliments to everyone who is working on the show!
Fringe is the best show ever!
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*metaphorically clicks “like” button*
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“Like”
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Well said! Stop the whinging everybody and just enjoy the story!
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like x 2
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(virtual LIKE) X (a few hits from Walter’s bong) = *commences giggling*
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like, like, like
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You are correct, of course!
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I agree. The show is a team effort. I appreciate the entire cast and crew.
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Did William Bell mind-meld with Olivia just prior to his death, only to have his essence appear in Olivia when Walter rang the bell ?
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As I understood it, it happened like this: Bell gave Olivia a cup of tea, which had soul magnets. Then he rang the bell to link those soul magnets in Olivia to his soul. When Walter rang the bell in this episode, Bell’s soul just had to find Olivia. Maybe I have it completely wrong.
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i loved this episode. BUT NOW I´M ALL TOO HYPED FOR NEXT WEEK´S!!! CAN´T WAIT CAN´T WAIT CAN´T WAIT CAN´T WAIT!!!
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one weird thing i noticed… probably is nothing, but it is certainly weird. The final scenes in Nina’s office, when walter enters, the bell in the background is bouncing. though when walter approaches it’s still. probably nothing, just thought it was worth pointing it out.
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you know what fringe has to do? show more books! you know what book should be prominently shown on fringe? the man in the high castle, by philip k dick? you kinow what it´s about?
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more than two realities…
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Perhaps even more interestingly, a reality in which the Nazis won World War II. Even if we’re not going there specifically, I do think we’re headed somwhere equally dark.
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exactly!!! xD so, when do you think are we seeing the third universe? season 4?
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What one could call negative you could also call people caring about a character and a show. The writers seems to prefer that instead of being indifferent.
As for the actors: Noble and Jackson always have had all the attention and positive press, Anna Torv has always been brilliant but did not get the recognition.
Jef Pinkner seems to be making this point everywhere these days, must be some reason , probably that she finally did get the compliments in 2010. I think Anna Torv is a fascinating and wonderful actress.
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I think you got that point across a long time ago….
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Yawn…. We all think Anna Torv is an excellent actress we just don’t feel the need to diminish the other actors performances or characters to express this! You are preaching to the wrong audience AnTo, but somehow I feel this is not the last post we will read from you on this subject………..
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This is pretty geeky, but my favorite part of Os was that FINALLY Fringe has explored a concept that’s been sort of murky ever since it was spelled out by Broyles in the pilot, that the Pattern events happenned because in some places the laws of physics had turned into “mere suggestions.” Further explored in “There’s More than One of Everything.” where Olivia links Pattern events to soft spots radiating out from Reiden Lake.
Finally, a specific example of a Pattern criminal discovering something that shouldn’t work and exploiting it. We’ve been told that this is happenning since the beginning of the show, but this is the first time ever that we’ve actually seen it. I always use to ask, if all of the Pattern events were totally explainable, and able to be re-created in Walter’s lab, what does Walter’s breaking the universe have to do with it? There was a vague sense of this, but Os was the first episode that actually paid off the theme of the show as suggested in the Pilot.
Took them two and a half seasons to do it, but I’m glad they did. And it looks like they keep this up next episode, with more impossible things made possible by our universe melting.
One thing I don’t like is how everyone’s on the same side now. I liked it when William Bell, Massive Dynamic and Nina were dangerous and mysterious, and I hope there’s still a dark side to that company and those characters. They don’t work as well when we’re all one big happy family on the Blue Side. Takes away some of the tension. Overall though, I’m amazed at how deep the writers have made the story while still producing the same show we saw in the pilot. That couldn’t be said for Lost after one season.
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Great post, John Roy. You’re right that this was a return to a season 1 theme and that’s something I think we’re seeing a lot of in season 3. I’m not sure if it’s an effort to make those early episodes feel relevent or not, but it doesn’t really matter, since I’m such a fan of that curcular storytelling.
I agree, too, about everyone aparently working together. Although Nina, as a character, is still mysterious, I liked it more when she’d seem to block the progress of our team. I suppose that had to fall by the wayside when the end of the world she lives in seems imminent! And, well, Walter IS her boss…
I’d like to see a resurfacing of th ZFT group, which seemed to work their own agenda. Maybe that’d ramp up the internal conflict on Earth 1.
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John Roy, you’re right, it was great to see some kind of explanation and it gives sense to a lot of other things. As for the “Happy Blue Family” you have a point, in season 1 I could see MD being behind everything, now this is history; but even so, I’m glad that Nina started to have interactions with the other characters, specially with Walter, maybe she was just a pawn; as for Bell, well I hope we get to see in this season some of his real intentions.
fedorafadares, I still can’t buy that the ZFT group was all about a guy who wanted to show Bell that was “especial”.
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Maybe i didn’t love the episode because I thought the case was kind of predictable, kind of, please, but I really liked it, and it was extremely well balanced, there was a case, walter was on the lab and working on something else, and there was nina, and Polivia
(but not much, just what was necessary) and mitholoogy, perfect balance!
the sad thing here is, because I’m a shipper, is that I think this is all we are going to see of Peter and olivia, next we have possessed Olivia, then over there and then 2 episode before the finale, asuming the finale is going to be double, I don’t know if they are going to make it to the season finale together or not, but well, at least it didn’t completily broke, maybe while this thing with Bell happens Olivia has time to chew on what peter did.
and kudos to Peter for tellling her the truth, I know it was terrible difficult but he is trying to be as honest as he can, so good for him, and I think that what the father, the scientist told his son about helping him, why he did what he did, is why Peter killed the shapeshifters, he says something “it was for you, I wanted you to be happy” and something more, I would understand if those were peter’s reasons, maybe it still doesn’t justify what he did but I will buy and like that explanation.
and Olivia being happy, I’m just happy about that, because although she looks happy and everything she hasn’t become stupid or anything, she is going to be pissed about what bell did and what peter did, so I don’t think she being happy for a WHOLE episode diminishes her character.
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i just re wached it and had to go to past eppisodes to get my ducks in a row, did anybody catch when walter says to nina that the micro soul magnets(cant remember if thats what he did call them) could be introduced by several methods including a cup of tea, so i went and checked momentum differed the first thing bell offers olive is a cup of tea which she later drinks, and the bell ringing was to set up for when it rang again so the magnets could work
i dont know if this made any sense at all, but that left me wondering
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Great point! I’m sure Bell most likely knew he would have to sacrafice himself for the greater good, so using Olivia as a means to come back via soul magnets makes perfect sense. Kudos to you. Btw she does a great impression of Bell.
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It’s just so nice to see Olivia and Peter happy. I love this epishode!!!
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