
Here’s the first look photo from the Fringe series finale — “Liberty/An Enemy Of Fate”.

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by Roco on January 12, 2013 · 19 comments

Here’s the first look photo from the Fringe series finale — “Liberty/An Enemy Of Fate”.

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Tagged as: an enemy of fate, liberty, promo photos, Spoilers
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So, the most interesting revelation from 5.11 is a dilema that I hope the writers explore. There is some real interesting conflict that is unique to ONLY Fringe and also doesn’t just brush aside the whole “Walter is reverting back to a man of hubris” dilemma that was adressed in 5.11 but COULD be something that is just brushed aside. It reaches into MANY of the decisions that have been made throughout the whole series run and makes me ACTUALLY EXCITED for a possible timeline reset (although I couldn’t stand that, until this episode, everything that had happened in Season 1-3 was ONLY remembered by Peter and Olivia).
Olivia is excited thinking that Etta will be reunited with herself and Peter. But, no Observers means there is NO Peter crossing over. September doesn’t interrupt Walternate and Walternate finds a cure for Peter. Blue Peter still dies but Red Peter stays in the Red Universe. So, Blue Olivia and Peter never meet and the ONLY possibility is Henry (who is probably not named Henry since there will be no dramatic cab driver delivering a baby in a chinese restaurant situation) although Henry is probably not going to happen either since Fringe division will probably not even come to be in the Red Universe since Walter doesn’t cross over with blatant disregard to the laws of physics before he and William Bell can properly test their “window” into another dimension. Whew. I know that was a long, run-on sentence but I am going all James Joyce stream of consciousness at this late hour.
I have never been a fan of resetting a timeline but there is precedence for it in the “world of Fringe”. The butterfly effect would be HUGE for our heroes. The CONFLICT THIS COULD CAUSE PETER, losing out on the love of his life, his relationship with his father (which is a version of Walter that he most likely will never meet AND a version of Walter that most likely wouldn’t exsist anyway since Walter won’t remove parts of his brain to offset his “hubris” since he won’t rip holes in the fabric of ANY universe since he won’t be under such time constraints to save the life of his son’s doppleganger).
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Oh, I forgot to mention…..that is a cool picture BUT it seems ripped from the video preview that we have all seen. The part where Olivia, um, gets “captured” by the red labeled Fringe division. So, I just decided to focus on the timeline reset thoughts that were in my head.
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Anyone else have any major thoughts, mostly on the emotional conflict that might arise for Peter, Walter, and Olivia that the timeline reset will effect? I think that Walter will probably want a chance at redemption. Not just by his sacrifice but by being able to “cheat time”. He seemed REALLY excited by that idea in the Season 3 finale in the future. I think that Olivia and Peter have more of a dilemma. There has been a focus on making sure that Etta’s sacrifice MEANS something. But, what does it all mean if she never exsists? Does that negate her whole sacrifice? I think that it does. Peter is VERY concerned with losing out on Walter. He also has experience with how SHITTY it can be to be erased from time. Would he be willing to lose Walter and be raised by Walternate? The man whom he remembers killing his wife? Will he be willing to erase all hopes of his daughter’s exsistence? Can he lose out on Olivia? Can Olivia take away ALL of her family? She was NEVER open emotionally until she got together with Peter and Walter and Astrid. She obviously takes away Lincoln from her doppleganger, too. Do they have kids? We might meet their children in the next episode. Will Olivia take her counterpart’s children away? There is basically ZERO chance for them to get together if Walternate cures Peter. The thoughts just keep going on and on. They could devote a whole episode to this concept. I hope that the “remarkably emotional” finale deals with this conflict. It is a GREAT way to bring back all the different aspects of EVERY SEASON OF FRINGE. I cannot fathom another book, movie, videogame, or television program being remotely able to create a situation that RAISES THIS VERY DILEMMA. So, once again, I hope that is the reason that Peter seemed to be less than excited about the idea than Olivia was. He has a unique perspective on how hard it can be to change the status of someone’s existence. Also, he knows that there is NEXT TO ZERO chance that he will have an opportunity to meet the woman he loves. I had a dream where a genie gave me a wish and I wished to go back in time to my high school graduation. I was thinking only of the money I could make and the lives I could save if I kept all of the knowledge that I currently have. The more I thought about it after I woke up the more terrible I felt. I would have to meet my wife (which would require a ridiculous amount of luck because of all the different circumstances that were required for me and her to meet) and I would have to wait YEARS before I could see my daughter again. Also, I would have to try and conceive my daughter at the exact moment that she was concieved originally. The odds of that happening are a zillion to one. So, even though I would love the billions I would have by investing in Apple at $4 a share and Facebook for peanuts, I would NEVER go for that opportunity if a magic genie were to offer it to me because it would be like I killed my child and erased her from ever existing (worst case) or made her existence reliant on a million perfect circumstantial situations to ever happen (best case). Whew. My head hurts, but in a good way. I hope that Wyman trusts our intelligence enough to explore this topic.
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Scott I think you should ask the magic genie for the billions straight up and avoid the time paradox. Then you could keep Fringe going and explore more of these ideas
I do think Bellie will come back into play. Because they cannot leave the Bell story open and say they have answered our big questions. They closed Sam Weiss’s story and he was a much less important character than Bell. How did Bell know about the stasis runes that trapped September in 4.22? And invent the go-faster gun? What happened to him after they found him in the amber?
Hmm, what if Bell is behind the observers in the future? The observer boss said something like “we chose this time for 99.99% success”. Who is we?
Anyway, I’m worried that because Olivia actually mentioned seeing Etta again it isn’t going to happen. So I have my fingers crossed for Etta and also hope Alt-Charlie will make an appearance before the end.
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No, Bell’s story is hinted at and we deserve FIRM answers on our team. Walter’s decisions in the last episodes will be important in redeeming his character, Olivia’s decisions will decide whether she really does have to do everything else and just how far this group has come from strangers on the fringes of society to heroes preventing a catastrophic future from engulfing free-will in the present. Bell, he was troubled at the on set of the invasion and tried doing a triple-cross on the invaders and Walter leaving the opening for the -spoiler- chance to travel in time. Whether he was honorable and courageous or risky and pathetic, I like that as q more ambiguous conclusion. It’s more artful than Nimoy getting out of the amber deus ex machina style.
However, I’ll enjoy whatever choice the show takes, I trust them to do the right thing in the end.
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Totally need to see those firm answers. Just like my loose ends tied.
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deb – Good point. I am never that smart when I am asleep (or awake, really, as you can see by my rambling thoughts). I wouldn’t just want the billions handed to me. I would have to “make” the money, even though it’s technically cheating since I already know what is happening. It’s about the bragging rights, too I think.
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You forget that Bellie and Walter were already thinking about crossing the universes anyway before the Peter incident. They had already created the “Window Viewer” so it is still possible that a cross over would happen, but whether Peter makes the trip or not would be up for speculation.
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Christ, I don’t remember if I said it or not on this page (let me go look…..) but I think I addressed that Walter and Bellie will make….Okay, found it. 1st comment, 2nd paragraph, towards the end of the paragraph. I know that Walter WILL cross over somehow. But, he won’t cross over with blatant disregard to the “laws of physics”. I meant by that that he and Bellie WOULD cross over but with a more elegant solution that Walter used. They wouldn’t have the Peter time-constraint. But, Walternate might not meet Olivia and might not ever know about the alternate universe since he might not be at Bishop Dynamic drinking and avoiding his grieving wife. He could be on a vacation with his now healthy Peter, feeling all proud for being such a damn genius that he was able to find a cure for an incurable disease and do his #1 job as a father and keep his boy healthy.
But, yes, I agree that Walter and Bellie would cross over. But, I don’t think Walternate would be in such a situation to be so involved in the Universe Crossing stuff. He might not be Secretary of Defense. Sure, he still creates the Star Wars Defense Program, but he never writes ZFT. No ZFT means he isn’t the ONLY PERSON ON RED EARTH qualified to deal with the planet’s #1 problem. So, he might just be rich. Probably not, though. It seems the Bishops are just drawn to this stuff.
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You know I was off rambling into the wee hours for too long if I can’t remember what I even posted.
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(sry for my english)
There is another option. I don’t think, there will be no Observers if Michael will go to the scientist in future (year 2167). Remember Michael is very very special anomaly. Most likely after this new “origin point” starting in 2167 there will be new timeline for observers/humans but WITH emotions. Really hard to imagine but I believe this is what Michael is about. Thanks to him they will have knowledge how to increase intellect without loosing emotions. So they maybe do not destroy their world in far future and don’t need to go back in past to 2015 to take control and start invasion for their better future. Or maybe destroy, but not destroy us because of compassion or something like that.
So September can still save Peter (but also not interrupt Walternate, of course) and so on.
Observers by their mission only observe so there should not be significant impact if they will have emotions. Maybe 99% events will be the same.
So because of that, invasion will never happen and they will live happily together
I think this is one of the best solution how to close the story without pain.
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maybe :\
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not maybe, but yes!
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I simply can’t believe, that by next week our journey will be over.
I sincerely hope, that Fringies will continue to join on the internet, greet eachother on #FringeFriday’s via social media, join on sites like these to discuss and rewatch episodes, produce fanfiction and even create LARP-isodes, webisodes and all kinds of fanfiction.
The Fringeverse(s) is a wonderful place to hang out and many, many stories and adventures can be told over there/over here.
For me, Fringe fandom was, is and will be something unique. I’ve had my Observer nick long before Fringe was created and aired and now i will cherish it forever. I’ve made alot of new friends, together we’ve created some of the most outrageous artwork and videos and i for one would love to see most of you back as fans at another tv-series fansite, somewhere in the future.
Fringe has made me laugh, made me cry, made me wonder, it even gave me some personal insight in matters of family, love, hope, betrayal and picking up the pieces. The last time a series did that for me personally, was Star Trek: The Next Generation.
Fringebloggers truly feels like home, and fellow Fringies feel like family to me.
I love Fringe, the cast, crew, creative staff, FOX, and my fellow Fringies for an awesome adventure; it was a helluva ride. Thank you all.
Hope to see you frequently on this site in the future; after next week i will be starting the rewatches on my sites and hope to draw in a lot of new viewers.
Thanks alot guys!!
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We should do a ‘Thank You Fringe’ video and post it next week.
Can we do something like that?
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I like that idea!!
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Ditto!
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I think this series finale will have olivia going back in time and may have reset history and having observers no longer exist (and possibly no dangerous problems throughout the fringe seasons since the pilot) ,Scott stil alive ,But there will be terrible price ,it might be possibly that Blue peter still dies ,everything sets in order with red peter still in the red universe,or maybe no longer existed,They might be erased or in a possibly way Walter sacrificed to die just to save the world by resetting history (that’s my theory i think)
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