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FRINGE: 5.04 The Bullet That Saved The World Sneak Peek 2
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Oh, Peter, why do you have to be such a pessimist!
It’s Fringe – nothing is impossible in Fringe!
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When Etta said she would “teach them all,” how to scramble their thoughts, did Olivia seem a bit skeptical or something? I don’t know, she just seemed unconvinced or something . . . anyone get that sense?
I really can’t wait for this episode to air. Unfortunately, I don’t think I’ll be able to watch live . . . family visiting.
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Yeah Olivia’s reaction is interesting. My guess is she’s still just a mother worried about her daughter
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I can’t watch live either….which means I pretty much have to stay off the internet until I can watch my DVR
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I sort of got the sense that Olivia knows something that Etta doesn’t like maybe Etta thinks she can teach them how to block their thoughts but really that power comes Cortexiphan that passed on to her genetically. I don’t know, but that’s what I took away from it.
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I was thinking it was a Cortexiphan thing too when I saw 4.19. But how does Peter do it then?
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Well, Peter tried but failed probably because he doesn’t have this natural ability. I could be wrong though, who knows?
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I thought Etta was referring to blocking the Baldies out completely, because it seems that Peter was simply scrambling his thoughts? Because when the Baldies look at Etta and try to read her mind, it’s silent?
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When Windmark tried to read Etta’s mind, there were the same noises like Peter. This means etta hid her real thoughts, like his father.
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Actually Peter was pretty able to hide good part of his true thoughts, in fact the observer could only read “baseball” and “young blond woman”. He even said “you’re trying to confuse me”.
And then, let’s remember he was able to fight Tyler’s mind control.
I think he has some abilities we don’t know yet.
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I’ll bet September got Etta outta there when the Observers took the park hostage, and he taught her this ability.
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Yeah that makes sense. That would also lead to a conversation about where Etta’s bullet came from hence the title of the ep.
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Yep exactly what i thought as well Scully8… Olivia sure did look skeptical. Ahhh Olivia and her facial expressions, they will be the death of us all lol
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Olivia all concerned about Peter…interesting.
That look, she gave at the end was really meaningful. The whole Etta speach was about what she did to the Badserver in the club in 4.19? Cause I thought that was some kind of power she got from her mama. I still think she have some power.
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Yeah Olivia concerned about Peter…whose attention is all on Etta. Not good for marital relations. Don’t get me wrong, I think a father should have a good relationship with his child. But if BBM-Man and the Dunhamnator are ever going to get un-estranged, then he needs to focus more on his wife.
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That’s silly. They are both worried about their daughter
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I don’t think his focus is necessarily misplaced.The audio in this clip isn’t working for me, so I may be off by missing something in this clip. But, both P and O blame themselves for losing Etta. Olivia seems to deal with it by pushing forward to save the world, trying to distract herself from her own emotions, while trying to pay back those who took her daughter away. Peter seems to take it much more personally, focusing on finding Etta, then on her personal safety and making the mission much more about revenge for Etta and not necessarily the human race as a whole. Now I’m not saying that Peter doesn’t care about humanity at large, just that his major reason for fighting this battle is still Etta, while for Olivia, it’s both. I think Peter has shown empathy and compassion for Olivia — take the van scene in 503.
I think the other reason we are seeing so much concern for Etta early in the season is because we are going to get a lot of P and O processing time in the next few episodes and for the rest of the season as they deal with what is going to happen in this episode. So I think P and O will get their time. Right now is the lead up and the parental care and concern that is going to be a part of P and O rebuilding their relationship down the road.
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the audio wasn’t working either. in high quality but I tried lower quality and it worked only one earpiece(left earphone) thou but you can hear them talk at lest!!!!
I keep wandering how ETTA got the bullet.
it’s going to be an interesting EP.
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Thanks for mentioning that about the audio. I was thinking it was my computer but now I’m thinking it’s the way the audio was mastered or something. I haven’t been able to watch any of these clips that have come out the past couple days.
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I’m with you on that, DeepRunner.
A little love for his wife and father would also be nice. It’s sweet that he immediately checked Etta’s hands in 503 for the bark disease but there was absolutely no concern for Walter and Olivia afterwards. Since the premiere I’ve just been noticing a slight lack of passion on Peter’s side for everyone except Etta.
Getting back to the sneak peek, if Etta thinks she can teach them to block the Observers then surely this can’t be due to the Cortexiphan. Interesting.
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watch that scene in Recordist again. As Walter is examining Olivia we see a couple of close up shots of Peter worried about Olivia
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His expressions were confusing to me, couldn’t really tell if he was worried or what
@Mommadeen – Uh, I’m sorry if you’re that offended by my comment…
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I don’t recall anybody checking Peter. I don’t recall Walter showing Peter any passion either same with Olivia. But you know criticize Peter and nobody else. I mean forget that when Olivia woke from her dream, Peter was over her holding her hands, or when Peter said something wrong and he went to Olivia and told her what a great mom she is. But forget all that.
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I am not criticizing Peter, Mommadeen. As someone who has been in relationships (and who is in a very long-term one right now), I recognize the dejected look that Olive had as she was trying to help Peter and all of his attention was on Etta. Before the start of Season V, Wyman talked about a triangle. I think this is it.
My only observation is, for a guy who wanted to be with Olivia so much, he just needs to show a bit more affection to his wife and the mother of his child. I don’t think it will last that way throughout the season. I think (if they both make it to the end of the season) that there will be the love/passion that long-time Fringies have seen.
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Btw, If you want to pick on Peter, why not realize that ETTA has not shown much love for Peter or Walter for that matter. All her emotional moments were with Olivia and Olivia only. I mean she talks about how Olivia is this special person with her oh so wonderful eyes and not once did she compliment Peter. You would think since Etta is peters daughter that she and him will share more scenes together.
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An observation is not an attack. It is an observation. Now, I also agree with some who say Etta has been more interested in her relationship with Olivia. Could be because she knows Peter is already “there” for her. She found Peter FIRST, and then they worked together to get Olive out of amber.
FWIW, I have always–and I think folks who have been in these parts know this is true–said that Peter is the equal of Olivia and Walter in the story. Moreover, Peter, as a character, has Rock Star Status among Fringies. There are some who don’t like his character, but he is one of The Big Three. I have always spoken well of the story, the characters, and the show.
The great thing about our Fringe Universe–whether Blue, Red, or Amber–is that, generally speaking, we all enjoy what has been the BEST. SCI-FI. SHOW. EVER.
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Like father, like son .
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Olivia is the Queen Bee.
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I agree, I would love to see the love/passion P and O had for each other, and it doesn’t need to be overwhelming one of the things I love about Fringe is the subtlety of P and O’s passion/love amidst all the fringe events. Simple things like the fact that Peter can calm Olivia down instantly, like in “Bad Dreams” back in season 1 (which I thought was really cool how they brought that back in the scene when Olivia was having nightmares about the invasion in the park and Peter was there to wake her and calm her down).
But I also think that Olivia is a bit distant/hesitant but it is totally within her character.
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@Mommadeen,
I agree with your points, and I think Peter is showing love to Olivia (even though he seems to be primarily focused on Etta this season). I just don’t understand why you are taking everyone’s comments about Peter so personally.
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I agree, Peter in S5 seems to be mostly concerned with Etta only. I understand that he’s the father who never stopped looking for Etta and being very protective this time around. I just dont feel the same love he had for Olivia before and also Walter. I also know that they are estranged so this might be the more matured version of Peter? I hope he *warms up* more to Olivia and Walter in the upcoming episodes.
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Walter has NOT shown a single once of love toward Peter, in fact Walter was mad at Peter for abandoning them and Olivia JUST came out of the amber and Peter and Olivia could have been estranged before the ambering. Peter is giving olivia her space. Why is it that Peter gets so much crap for everything while Walter and Olivia don’t get criticized AT ALL? May I also ask why Walter and Olivia who havent shown any love toward Peter at all are not being criticized? But you know, I guess you can’t criticize the dunhamnator or lovable Walter.
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You know, just because someone makes a comment about Peter, that doesn’t necessarily mean, that they don’t like him.
And it’s not true, that people don’t criticize Walter and Olivia – can’t you remember the begining of season 4 for example, when a lot of people were complaining about Walter being badly written? Or at the end of that season, where people were criticizing that Olivia’s super powers are just too conviniant?
Not to mention Lincoln!
Perhaps, if you stop being so focused on what others say about Peter, you could see that other characters get criticized too, and that Peter is anything but a black sheep in the Fringe family.
And I’m not trying to insult you!
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It’s so funny to read this because to me it is Olivia is the closed off one. Peter just wants his family back and its Olivia who is having a harder time processing this all. To me Olivia is the one who has been emotionally distant which is perfectly fitting for her character.
I also don’t get the above comments about Wyman mentioning a triangle. He never mentioned that in respect to this season. It’d be crazy if he did because I don’t think anyone wants to see Olivia upset with Peter because he’s paying more attention to their daughter. lol. That’s not our Fringe character at all!
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There is an interview where he mentions there being a triangle in the 5th season. I think it’s sort of like a love triangle but not really. I mean, obviously, Peter loves Etta like a child and Olivia in a romantic way, but think about how difficult it must be to basically be asleep for 20 some years, then wake up to a grown daughter.
P and O never went through the process of negotiating life and their relationship with Etta in the picture. She was only 3 when she was taken, and it seems like things were pretty great during those first 3 years. Now they are dealing with an adult daughter who is very much so like her mother. She is stubborn. Defiant. Likes to be in control. Peter wants to treat her like a child, yet she is a grown woman.
I don’t think it’s a triangle so much in that Olivia and Etta will be competing for Peter’s attention and affection, but the three of them will have to negotiate their relationships as adults, and that will surely be confusing.
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i like your points shidey17, very well said!
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*Warm up* may be the wrong word. Only trying to say I miss the old Peter. And maybe this is the evolved Peter I dunno. I was merely voicing out how I felt during the first few episodes of the season. Olivia being closed off or or cold or sad is not new to me.
I love Fringe and inasmuch as I love the journey of the characters, I think the show is more of a big, thought-provoking, mind-blowing story. Still, I am hoping that all of the characters get their happy endings.
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I don’t think the situation required Peter to focus on Olivia, since he’s worried he might have given up too much information about Etta, but…
- This is the first time Olivia has shown any interest for her husband since the beginning of the season. That is, if she still considers him her husband.
- We have seen that Peter still carries his ring on a chain, but Olivia’s is missing, which could mean she’s not that into him after all and has given up on him.
- What if Peter finally got a clue? He can’t be all about Olivia all the time. He already admitted to her how much he admires her and how sorry he is for failing her, he supported her when she woke up from her nightmare and when she confessed her conflicted emotions about motherhood. She responded to all of that mostly with indifference. Do you really think his only role is to fawn over her? Even if you think it is, can he take a break every now and then?
Hot debate. What do you think?
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Actually if you notice even Walter has a strange reaction to Etta’s comment. Something is up!
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True . . . my head hurts from trying to figure out who’s going to die, what Olivia is thinking, now why Walter’s reaction is strange.
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I clearly see the connection here. Peter feels outmatched and in some doubt appears.
We all have a deep feeling something will change in this EP and Peter Olivia Walter Astrid Etta will have a new inspiration to do what is necessary. It is human nature to 2nd guess sometimes and this would be very difficult to achieve when Observers have unique powers that make them a tougher opponent.
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Great point, I can really see that a “new inspiration” would definitely push Peter’s doubts aside and maybe even unite the team even more. Sometimes passion can blossom from finding something new that inspires us.
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I don’t understand why people have obsessions about Peter or Olivia. What makes Fringe is awesome is not only Oliva or Peter. The relationships between the characters and the family dynamic makes Fringe great. There are just 10 episodes left and we should enjoy the last journey of our fringe team.
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Well everyone watches for different reasons. I LOVE the show overall but I have my favorites.
Anyway, its interesting to me that Peter is wearing the wedding ring necklace outside his shirt. I imagined it was something he wanted to keep hidden from Olivia.
We still don’t know where Olivia’s ring is but I’m sure it’ll be addressed soon(for all you talking about the lack of P/O. It’ll happen!)
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I don’t see it as an obsession, I see it as defending our favorite characters. It gets annoying when Olivia’s actions get excused cause it’s all part of her character (so its ok to be closed off and to stop looking for your own daughter?) but Peter bishop, the guy who lost 2 children, finds her 20 years later and does not want to lose her again and gives her his undivided attention, that’s wrong cause he isn’t kissing Olivia’s butt 24/7? I mean honestly, people do not want to understand peters character at all nor do they care about Peter as a character.
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You might enjoy the show more if you didn’t see the characters as so black and white
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nice ML
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Blocking off the observer reading is a very good weapon for the team. I mean it is realistic that the Observers will be the ones coming after the Fringe team and not the Loyalists. I’m interested on how Etta will teach them this, there are no Observers they can practice with. Or are there? Where is September or the inner child Observer? Lol given that they are fugitives they need to learn this skill fast or there wont be a next time.
Since Peter is second-guessing their ability to defeat the Observers I bet he’ll do something really heroic this episode.
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Agreed. It’s interesting, too, that whether they are able to block the Observers or not, they Observers still know they are up to something. I’ll have to go back and watch 419 to see Windmark’s reaction to not being able to read Etta, but the Observer is this clip is concerned about Peter trying to block him out. He’s concerned about Peter not wanting to be read.
So if someone is trying to block their thoughts, then the Observers would have to think that they have something to hide. This could be just as dangerous for the team. I think it’s kind of weird that Etta didn’t teach them to think something that could be seen as normal thought (thought not what they were really thinking) instead of just a random batch of images and thoughts. Does that make sense?
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Yeah I dont remember either when the Observers found out that the team has a plan to defeat them. Was this during Walter’s interrogation in TTUM11? I am also a bit skeptical about this hiding Etta in their thoughts, I mean they have raided enemy territory more than once, right? No cameras? Windmark knows that Etta is involved, so he mustve disseminated this information to the others, right? In the recordist, when the loyalist told anil(?) that the team was spotted, did he not mention that Etta was also in the hologram thingy? Somethings up if they will still let Etta continue to be a Fringe agent. Or maybe the important secret is not that shes a double agent, but that she is P/O’s child.
About the random batch of thoughts and images, I dunno. To me at least, the thing you dont want to think about immediately becomes the thing you think about. I think Walter may have had an interesting reaction because he knows something already about fighting an Observer reading.
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If I recall Windmark’s reaction toward reading Etta was:”You are always exactly what you seem to be agent.” So she must have been trained by an Observer to do this. I’m thinking September or even perhaps the grown up Inner Child will have something to do with this training. I don’t expect this to necessarily come out completely in this episode, but perhaps in the next one. “An Origin Story”
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Yes. I went back and watched it and that’s exactly what Windmark said. I also think that in the episode there are a few other Observers who seem to be really interested in Etta. They seem to be fascinated by her. Perhaps it’s because they don’t get a read on her and are really interested by it.
There’s also a conversation between Etta and the guy who gets shot at the beginning about them not being able to read her. She says something like “they find out there’s anybody like you and they’ll kill you.” Etta responds with something like “I love being special.”
I don’t know if that’s a reference to her being a double agent or them not being able to read her, but I think it’s the latter. And it’s also interesting that he, Simon, Nina, and others seem to know that she can’t be read. It makes me wonder more if it’s a Cortexiphan thing. I was rewatching 502 last night, and if you look at Etta during Olivia’s dream, it seems as if she knows something is about to happen right before it does, just like Olivia does in both her and Peter’s versions of the dream.
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I THINK @Mommadeen is Darth Kate
she has all the attributes, conflicting with most peoples opinions, getting nasty at people for liking Olivia/Walter more then Peter lol
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Darth Kate hated Peter
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She liked Lincoln the most lol
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Lincoln…Everyone’s favorite RedVerse friend, and many people’s BlueVerse Ralph Wiggum…
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I recall a troll from after season three that wouldn’t shut up about Peter this and Peter that, who was very abrasive toward any comment that either wasn’t worshiping Peter or even the ones that had really nothing to do with Peter. I also remember this person was fully upset about Peter ceasing to exist as well. I think eventually that person got blocked from posting comments here due to fighting with everyone. But I have a feeling they are back. Maybe the block wore off. LOL!
It wasn’t Darth Kate either. I can’t recall the name for the life of me.
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Anna Torv had one aswell, apparently i cant put the name down because then it says my comment is awaiting moderation
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An…….To
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And Peter’s was @freakadeek.
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Ha! Even the name has been blocked?! LMAO!
I’m feeling the need to go back through some of the old posts from over a year ago now. LOL!
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Mommadeen is Patty. Also known as freakadeek, 45, Phantasystarlover, Kendall Brandford, Gleebee etc. The Josh/Peter troll.
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No, not Darth Kate…Kate really did NOT like Peter, and IIRC, thought Fringe had become the P/O Soap Opera. I agree with others in the FB community that it is funny how, no matter what show, people can be pretty strong in their preferences for one character over another.
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I don’t think that Mommadeen is Darth Kate, because Darth Kate focused more on criticizing episodes and season 4 in general. Also, Kate said diferent things in her comments, while Mommaden’s comments all look very much the same – about how everybody is picking on Peter, and no one on Walter and Olivia, that we’re too hard on him, that we excuse Olivia and Walter everything, and that we analize Peter’s every mistake.
No offense Mommadeen, but you’ll have to get a bit more creative in your comments, if you want take Darth Kate’s place.
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Yes as i remember Darth Kate was obssessed about Olivia, and critisized Peter in every post, she always thought he shouldn’t be a fringe character or somthing, whatever lol
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No you’re remembering the person called An___to (take out the underscores).
Darth Kate was just highly antagonistic toward fanboys/fangirls in general. She was uber critical of the show no matter what happened, and thusly abrasive to anyone who wasn’t. I personally got along with her most of the time, considering I pretty much found most of season 4 rather dumb upon first viewing. But she had her moments. I think she just gave up on the show, or at least FringeBloggers altogether.
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AHHH my mistake i thought Darth Kate liked Peter but yes you guys are right she didnt like him that much.
and yes she critized the whole season 4 with her side kick Dylan.
But Rick Terry i do remember that one user that would not stop fighting with ppl over Peter in season 3 and then she ceased to exsist when Peter did lol
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She’s back! @Mommadeen.
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Olivia and Walter fans, watch out – Mommadeen is comming …
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Kid, please do not encourage this kind of behavior.
Its the last thing we need at this crucial time in viewing. Thanks.
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I’m not encouraging it!
And I agree, there is absolutly no need for FBies to argue with each other (ok, there’s no need for humans in general to argue with each other, but let’s leave that topic for some other day). We’re all fringies here, and we all agree about one thing – that this show is absolutly awsome! And it’s pointless to argue who’s ”better” or ”more important” for this series – they are all a part of it, and Fringe would be a diferent show without each and every one of them (here I’m talking about the main characters).
Discussing who is more awsome, Peter, Olivia or Walter is like discussing which letter is better or: A, B, C. Because what matters is the alphabet.
So I’m asking you – why can’t we all just get along, and enjoy in Fringe, while we have it?
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*Discussing who is more awsome, Peter, Olivia or Walter is like discussing which letter is better: A, B or C. Because what matters is the alphabet.*
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You ever hear the saying ” Mom always liked you best. ”
It is like a parent picking their favorite child. Impossible right.
Every child is special.
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absofreakinlutely
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