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It’s good to see that the characters figured out where the first tape is hidden, after Walter’s silly video where he didn’t even give a definitive answer as to where it was…so out of character. But yes, good to see they won’t be wasting any time (except for that possible tree bark disease).
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It will be interesting to see how they figure out the tape location.
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damnnn its like a horror story where the people who live in the trees infect anyone who comes near them lol
Arghhhhh cant bloody wait til next week
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Oh no, Olivia and Walter will transform into tree people!
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Hope I’m wrong, but it looks like a filler ep. to me, like they didn’t have enough of a story so they put in the black growth thing. I am not at all looking forward to it. There is enough going on, so much we could learn about, that they don’t need to waste are time with a MOTWish story line.
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That’s EXACTLY how I feel! We deserve to know so much about the Observers but we’re getting episodes that just don’t even touch upon it! They could have asked Etta about them or how she was raised in the last episode. Why are we watching people with black forest stuff when we deserve answers?
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It’s funny, I’ve seen other review sites lamenting that there would be no more MOTW episodes because this season was going to be one long serialized story, and now someone is worried about the opposite. No matter what the writers do they can’t please everybody. However, Wyman and the cast have said that there would be no filler episodes this season, so every episode will further the larger story in some way. But he also said that there will be an episodic structure such that each hour feels like a mini-story within the larger story arc.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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You’re right, you can’t please everybody and there’ll always be someone complaining.
What worries me is that Wyman just doesn’t seem to have enough story for 13 episodes.
Although I liked “In Absentia” from a character perspective, there was really a lack of story and plot to be noticed in these first two episodes. I mean, we don’t even have a plan right now. The only thing we know is the fact that we NEED a plan, but that was something we already knew.
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You are saying the same thing that I said. And, again, I was not complaining, just expressing concern, just like you are doing. I stated above about not having enough story, and that is exactly what you said.
I agree with you about “In Absentia”, it just felt hollow.
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I thought Wyman actually crammed a lot of story into the season premiere. Granted, “In Absentia” was not a plot-driven episode but it provided some necessary character development for Etta, and the scenes between Olivia, Etta and the loyalist were riveting. The scavenger hunt plot seems like an ideal device for exploring this future, and I’m looking forward to see where it leads the Fringe team. I’m sure the important plot revelations are being saved for later episodes.
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First off, my applause to you and williamreturns for keeping disagreements to unprecedented levels of respectful by internet standards. Thank you for that. Now, onto the show. I enjoy the plot device of the “tapes”, but one issue I had with Season 4 was this: Seasons 1, 2, and 3 were as if the writers took a path that was FAR from a straight line. It would look like somebody had a seizure while drawing a line from Point A to Point B. Season 4 to me was as if the writers went back to the beginning and just drew a straight line to the end. It covered a lot of the same ground, it had NO originality (if you were an avid Fringe fan), it didn’t explore OUTWARD into different times and universes (with a couple of random exceptions, like 4.19 which is almost more like Season 5 Episode 0, and the BRIEF glimpse into William Bell’s new universe that didn’t end up coming to fruition). Season 4 only explored inward, exploring the relationships of the characters more than anything else. Now, I have no problem with this EXCEPT that they ALREADY EXPLORED THE RELATIONSHIPS BEFORE, and they did it with MUCH MORE SUCCESS! They ruined the Peter and the two Walter’s reltationship which is something that NO OTHER SHOW could possibly hope to explore. They took away all of the developments the actors and writers hit a home run with and reworked them in a worse way. It sucks. Getting back to my point (if I had one), the “tapes” McGuffin (sp?) seems eerily similar to the “machine” plot device. Explore the world, meet interesting people, rinse, wash, repeat. Never will the viewer feel any REAL sense of fear that the characters won’t complete their goal. Unless, they collectively grow a pair and really mess us viewers up in this the final season. Sorry that I am so long winded and the capitalization is to represent me yelling so sorry for all the yelling. Anyone understand my view on Season 4? I am having a hard time explaining it.
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Another repeated plot device, is Walter and his memory issues. Look, I know that John Noble plays “confused man of immense intelligence” better than maybe any other actor alive but please stop it. One aspect of episode 4.19 that I enjoyed and was excited about was a WHOLE Walter. His brain no longer was an obstacle once Etta and Desmond (I have to call him that, sorry) “fixed” him. Then, we get to Season 5 and they find a new way to mess with that in the first damn episode. On top of that, they take away Olivia’s superpowers at the end of Season 4, too. I would love to see Olivia become supremely powerful to the underestimating eyes of the Observers. But, alas, that is apparently gone, too. I guess they could bring it back, with an injection of Cortexiphan or something. Walter could say, “people who are injected with cortexiphan become superheroes if they had powers and had them taken away” or something. Similar to how he just blurted out that it has regenerative properties during the last episode or two last year. I would hope he does, and the Machine is found and turned on so the Red Universe can work with the Blue Universe (or Amber?) to get rid of the Observers (along with a fully functioning Walter, who gets his mind back due to some brain helmet from September or something). Unfortunately it seems as if the writers are going to complete opposite direction from all of that.
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I think I have some understanding of your view of Season 4. Although my view of Season 4 is slightly more positive than yours, I agree that it was filled with what I would call “creative recycling.” It was like they took parts of Seasons 1-3, threw them in a blender and recombined them in a random manner. What resulted was a mess that the writers had trouble sorting out in a coherent manner. It was a missed opportunity with a lot of unfulfilled potential. However, I can still enjoy parts of it by focusing on what it is rather than what it could have been.
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I didn’t HATE it, but when I thought, “This could be IT, the last season” I was pretty ticked. Plus, when you wait week to week for something awesome to happen and it kind of drags on it gets a bit annoying. The mid-season hiatus sucked too, especially because the MLB Playoffs screwed up which episode we were left hanging on. They had a specific one planned and it was the one that was the second half premiere, which had A LOT more “meat” to it. That being said, when going back to watch Season 4 without the wait it isn’t as bad. Just, at the time, I was disappointed.
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I agree that watching it week to week made it more difficult, and having to endure the 2-month hiatus to see the episode that was supposed to be shown in November was horrible. It’s much less frustrating watching it on DVD, but I still would have been annoyed if the Season 4 finale had been the series finale. I’m very thankful to be getting this final season and hopefully a more satisfying ending for the show.
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Lack of story in “In Absentia”? We got much needed backstory about the loyalist and the resistance. We got great character moments between Olivia and her daughter. Walter discovered his tape, etc, etx.
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I have also seen/read those interviews.
I like MOTW episodes, they were some of my favorites in the previous seasons. But there is no room for them in a 13 episode season. I am not complaining, and neither are those people who miss the MOTW story lines, we are just expressing our concern and opinions. I guess you just like whatever you see, and have no opinion on whether it’s of quality or substance, and pick on people who express and opinion. I am not insulting this show, I love it more than you can fathom.
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If my post gave the impression that I was picking on you, then I apologize; that was not my intention. I definitely don’t like whatever I see, and I had some major issues with Season 4 of this show. I guess what I was responding to is that some viewers seem to fear in advance what future episodes will bring. I’m just suggesting we should be patient and wait until we’ve seen upcoming episodes before we worry about it too much. I’m willing to be optimistic until they shatter my optimism, but hopefully that won’t happen. But you’re right, if others want to worry about it there’s nothing wrong with that. In any case, we’re all Fringe fans and that’s what counts.
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I guess I sort of feel like season 5 should be these perfect episodes or at least not cast any worry or doubt into me, because they can do literally whatever they want. Wyman once said there was 8 seasons of material, so I sort of expected there to be major revelations in every episode. That’s why, to see them dealing with a new problem now (the treek bark virus thing) irks me, even though I haven’t seen it, because at first glance it has no relation to the answers and revelations I’m sure are out there. I don’t want them to introduce a bunch of things that aren’t entirely relevant to the plot (like they did in Season 4, with Lincoln Lee, the human shapeshifters, etc) I just want them to focus on the characters we love (and I agree on whoever said they want the full Walter, that would be perfect for this season) and answer the questions we have. I’m sure they will, well I hope they will, but after Season 4 my trust has been kind of shaken up. I think for a lot of viewers Season 5 will just be in the shadow of the strange Season 4, and until the very end a lot of people will be doubting plot decisions. Here’s hoping they prove me wrong. Engage me Fringe, surprise me, and exhilarate me! These 3 Observer episodes we’ve gotten in 2036 have done just that, which is amazing, so I just want them to keep it up.
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I believe the “spots” are going to refer to something that we, as the audience, are supposed to understand about this new world. A new plague perhaps. Ultimately, I think going forward, all these episodes are meant to give us a greater knowledge of this dystopia, and help explain why our character are re-acting and conducting themselves in the way that they are.
The writers can’t just thrust our team into this new world without providing some kind of background details as to why aspects of the world are the way that they are. Honestly, I’ll appreciate episodes like this seems to be. It adds depth to a narrative story-line, colors the picture, if you will, so we can grasp what’s going on from more angles then just one.
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What you said at the end is exactly why I LOVED the “Over There/Over Here” episodes. I loved the characters over here that we already knew (with the Bolivia twist, of course) but the world over there was fun discovering along with the people who inhabited it. The writers and set designers are the ones responsible for me going from just enjoying this television program to LOVING it. The end of Season 1, in Bell’s office, with the pictures of an old JFK, the fact that Obama had two sons instead of daughters, the twin towers standing tall, etc. had me rabid with anticipation to watch more and see more of the Red Universe. In order for me to fully appreciate this final season, the writers and set designers MUST build up this future dystopia in a similar manner. So far, so good (just barely, but we are only 3 episodes in if you include 4.19) and the promise is there for more.
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Noooo! Not Walter and Olivia. My two most beloved characters.
Press release of this one was interesting, looking forward to it.
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I wasnt this to start picking up and I believe it will. we are now moving on but besides the Observers and loyalist I want to things answered.
I dont want to keep getting more road blocks in the way as if they are getting infected by some bizarre tree issue.
we need the team to stay focused get the goods find out who made the machine, how many timelines did we have, What happened to bell after 4.22 and how did he reunite with the team, was Moseley a Resistance fighter from the future or another advanced evolution instead of the observers, did September die or did his life begin in the inner child who actually witnesses the future invasion post 4.22 and are we staying in 2036 or is the plan to go back to 2015 while ridding the observers.
I also want to know if the Red verse was occupied as well but I feel that chapter has been closed. what is Bells fate will he end up like Simon as well. And was Massive Dynamic really the cause of the worlds demise. Did their technology advance to the point that caused the Future to run Rapid only to take back the past.
These are pretty much my requests because I think we the fans need some pending questions answered instead of more questions being added. I think it will start moving though but it has been face paced and slowed at times like the ending of absentia.
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Didn’t the tree people appear in the In Absentia promo as well?
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