FRINGE: 4.18 The Consultant — Sneak Peeks

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Get an extended look at the 18th episode of Fringe Season 4 by consulting these brand new previews.

“The Consultant” previews

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  1. Maris says

    Oh man, I really want to see Walter on the Other Side!!!! Love Walter!!!
    Really like the sneak peeks. Nina been mean, I liked!!!!

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  2. williamreturns says

    what up with John and Josh in the the 2nd preview?…

    The first one has me jumping out of my skin for Friday! What an awesome scene! Red is so awesome! And Anna is brilliant!

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  3. scully8 says

    Love Walter –“I like to empty my blatter before going on long trips”; Olivia– “Walter, you do realize we’re just going through a door”. Great stuff . . . made me really chuckle. Oh one more: Walter: “Walter Bishop,
    Consultant” I’ll be interested to see how these scenes fall within the episode. Meana ain’t no joke . . . she’s going to transport out of jail like DRJ did back in (I think) the season 1 episode “Safe”. I am really excited about this episode.

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  4. scully8 says

    I know it’s just a short scene (peek 2), but what is Peter’s purpose on the scene? With Astrid on hand, I’m wondering if Peter is back to being the guy with all the wisecracks. I hope not — I’d like to see him use that 190+ I.Q. like he did earlier in the season. Just sayin . . .

    I’m so excited . . . two comments in under five minutes.:)

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  5. earthbrah says

    So Amberverse Walter is using drugs recreationally now. I don’t think we’ve seen him do this, or even had reference to it this season so far. Perhaps Peter’s presence is causing Walter to relax more, or to want to relax more.

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  6. Rae says

    Interesting how often God is being referenced by Walter so much this season. His belief in the Deity seems to hinge on aspects of Peter’s existence, it seems. I remember in season one, he’d claimed he wasn’t particularly religious, then come mid season 2, he’s become such a desperate man he reached out to Higher Power for forgiveness and then later, he’d prayed to God, asking he save his son…again.

    As it has before, I think God is going to become a much bigger part of this getting-into-the-end story line. The war between good and evil is ultimately, what our characters are facing, if it’s not so predominately final as of yet this season.

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    • LastManInSpace says

      Please no.

      I don’t mean to offend anyone’s religious beliefs or anything like that. BUT I am SOOO sick of sci-fi shows not having a clue about how to wrap things up or be bothered to find compelling answers to the mysteries they pose and then turning to god and faith.

      Lost did it, as did BSG and it felt cheap both times.

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      • Ari says

        If I may, it seems that the issue is more a reflection of how the shows implemented religion than the implementation of religion itself. I have never watched Lost but I thought BG dealt with religion pretty well until the end, when many things (not just the religious storyline) faltered – in my opinion.

        That said, I wouldn’t be keen on Fringe doing the same. I know that Fringe has referenced the divine on many an occasion. I am also worried about such a reference being rushed – much like the reveal from September in the other episode. It is not that I disagree with him, that “love” kept Peter in the world, but there was something less than satisfying about it. I tend to think that that is not the reason, per se, but the rushed explanation. I would hate for that to be done to a religious storyline or, in fact, to any more storylines on Fringe.

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        • Albert says

          I agree that when September said that “love” brought Peter into the world, or new timeline, he was greatly simplifying a much more complicated explanation. I believe he was refering to the combination of “quantum emotional entanglment” and Olivia’s emotional attachment to Peter. “Traces” of Peter remained after the timeline was rewritten. While Olivia did not consciously remember Peter, it seemed obvious that some subconscious feelings for him remained because of how she reacted to Peter. So September’s “love made it happen” is merely a short way of explaining something which is actually much more complicated.

          I also think that religion in Battlestar Galactica is the same. On the surface it seems very silly, perhaps even stupid. But if we understand that this simplified religious description of events is actually just a short way of describing something much more complicated, then we can see that perhaps it is not so silly or stupid after all.

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          • Cortexiphan Kid says

            “While Olivia did not consciously remember Peter, it seemed obvious that some subconscious feelings for him remained because of how she reacted to Peter.”
            I don’t completely agree with this, because how could she has subconscious feelings for him, if she never meet him? And don’t forget, when they first meet, she reacted to him, like she would to any other stranger.

            Anyway, this love thing was one of the most poorly executed things in Fringe, and I’m not buying it.

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            • willg says

              She had subconcious thoughts of Peter because of the palimpsest theory that we have come to understand from The End of All Things when Walter was talking about that video and how it kept recording over itself every so often. They were able to find what was beneath the other video footage. That corresponds to what is going on with Olivia. As far as the love thing, someone described it above well. The love thing was oversimplified, but has been mentioned in other episodes as an emotional quantum entanglement like in 6B. I don’t have a problem with it.

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            • Albert says

              “I don’t completely agree with this, because how could she has subconscious feelings for him, if she never meet him?”

              I believe the Cortexiphan inside Olivia sensitized her to the events of the previous timeline. In “White Tulip” in season 2, Olivia was able to sense that events were somehow different, which proves that she is sensitive to a chage in the timeline. Therefore, even if she has no direct memories of Peter, her sensitivity to the altered timeline will still have an effect on her.

              So, my theory is that Olivia WAS effected by the same feelings for Peter that she had in the previous timeline. This is why she was dreaming about him, and why her old memories eventually came back to her.

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      • M says

        The funny thing is, I can listen to Walter talk about flying man-porcupines, pyrokinesis, shapeshiters, scorpian-mole babies, and even soul magnets, but an invisible man who lives in the sky and communicates with mankind through a guy in Rome who covers up molestations is too much of a stretch for me. Too fringe for fringe.

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        • Darth Kate says

          I get where you’re coming from, but it is absolutely not fair to generalize all religion based on the corruption of one organization. And i say this as a non-denominational Christian who has issues of my own with the vatican. I’m not saying you have to be a theist, but religion and the church are not the same thing. Plus the notion that everyone views God as a giant man in the sky is an oversimplification that does a disservice to the millions of perfectly intelligent individuals who do believe.

          Sorry if this sounds like a rant, but this misconception is the single most irritating thing i tend to hear on the internet and i’ve never said anything about it until now. Moral of the story, don’t try to generalize the beliefs of other people, especially when you don’t particularly understand them.

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          • Cortexiphan Kid says

            Why I am an Atheist!;)
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOVPaYf780
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxWSM5G0OPg
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6edqRgDYg0

            Oh, I would suggest Richard Dawkins’s The god delusion too!;)

            P.S. I still don’t want to insult anyone (especially not very religious people- that NEVER ends up well!), but as Darth Kate said; “Moral of the story, don’t try to generalize the beliefs of other people, especially when you don’t particularly understand them.”
            So please, don’t generalize atheism either.

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          • shidey17 says

            I have to agree with Kate here as well. I’m not a believer, and I think it’s okay to discuss the role of religion in Fringe, but it’s not okay to make broad generalizations or attack the beliefs of others.

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          • M says

            I have several ideas about the inner-workings of the universe myself (some of which have been depicted on Fringe) and they’re probably not correct. They could be, but I’m not going to base my life on them or get easily offended if someone wants to challenge those ideas. I do not think it is an intelligent decision to truly believe something without having evidence of it or being able to observe it, but as we have seen on Fringe, Walter is convinced that he is being tested by God. This could be emotional response to the impacts of decisions he has made on the universe.

            To clarify, I did not generalize all religion based on the corruption of one organization. I have much stronger reasons for not believing in each individual religious faith I’ve encountered. I was simply conveying the irony that a show about bizarre scientific phenomenons is more believable to me than the idea of God. I did not intend to disservice those with more logical explanations for the inner-workings of the universe (especially those with proof of it, if they exist). Perhaps I should not have referred to God as a man in the sky. He might exist in space, some other dimension, or most likely in a lot of people’s imaginations.

            I appreciate your opinions Darth Kate and shidey17, and did not intend to make a broad generalization. I think it is unfortunate that you were offended. However, I must day that it is fair and crucial to challenge (“attack” is not the word I would use) the beliefs of others and ourselves regularly. Thanks for getting me to exercise my brain. Now that I’ve has a chance to explain where I’m coming from, let’s do our own research, put this behind us, and get back to talking about Fringe.

            Matt

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      • T says

        It’s not an issue of writing…it’s an issue of culture. We live in a post-modern culture. The mistakes of modernism taught us that science doesn’t and can’t provide us with all the answers. This is especially evident in a show like Fringe, requiring Walter to attribute the unexplainable to God.

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    • willg says

      Unlike many, I don’t mind religion being brought in. Maybe not religion so much as a spirituality. Full disclosure of course I consider myself somewhat of a religious person however if it is done right it can bring a more profound aspect to a sci fi show. Some would consider it a cop out, but just like in real life, many things cannot be explained scientifically, and to try to force one sometimes would seem a bit contrived. I think when Walter references God, it brings a vulnerability to him. In The Last Sam Weiss (I think), when Walter was in the chapel and he was talking to God, I thought that was a great scene. Not because I think they should push God, but because it show how desperate and hopeless Walter almost felt and he needed to turn to something greater than what the situation entailed. It also brought him a great vulnerability that we don’t see a whole lot (beside being a little crazy of course) and how bad the situation seems. Unlike many, I like how Lost ended that show with that theme or motif. It was not perfect but overall I like how they presented it. It also shows even Walter does not have all the answers, as is the case in the real world. Just my two cents.

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      • Darth Kate says

        I’m no atheist, but i do not accept God being used as a plot device when people write themselves into corners. However that’s not what’s happening in this case, so whatevs. :)

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      • M says

        A lot of people are religious, so I find it appropriate for characters on Fringe to be religious. I would get concerned if those religious beliefs became the reality of the show. Lost sort of did that, but I saw it as more of a metaphorical event than a religious one, so I still really enjoyed that ending.

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    • Cortexiphan Kid says

      It’s interesting, that untill Unearthed I always thought, that Walter and Peter are atheists, and Olivia is deeply religious (hence the golden cross naclace!).
      I was very surprised when that episode prove me wrong.

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      • Robert Ariadne says

        Olivia? Religious? In Unearthed, she said she wasn’t; because praying to God didn’t stop her stepfather from abusing her and her mother.

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        • shidey17 says

          Agreed. In the same episode, we learn that Peter is also not religious but that Walter does look to God for some of the things he can’t explain. This is also confirmed in White Tulip and other episodes.

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          • Tash says

            yeah i don’t mind the characters being religous but having god (or allah or whatever) as a reason for stuff happening is too far
            Its like explaining away the whole thing as ‘it all happened because goats control our minds’
            Because somewhere out there someone probably believes that and why should that opinion be less valid than the belief that there is a guy out there call god who created and controls everything (to put it simply)
            but the rest of us watching it would be like ‘mind controling goats??’ what a bunch of crap
            But to anyone not religous (which is probably most people now) sticking a god in there would be about as feasable as mind controlling goats
            I think religion in fringe (or any tv show) should be kept neutral so anyone can watch and enjoy it :)

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            • Tash says

              haha mind the mind controlling goats thing is a bit weird and as i am lying in bed and are very bored, i thought of a better way to put this
              I am a person who has never been christened or brought up to be religous (apart from learning a few bible storys at school and celebrating christmas)
              So for me religion has always been weird and confusing (well maybe not buddism,that seems pretty cool)
              To be honest I have always found it amazing (in a good way) how someone can put so much faith in something that has basicallly no proof
              So if they put god (or allah, or zeus etc.) in as more than just the characters beliving in it I (and many others) would be completely alienated and some people may even stop watching it if they are like a more touchy athiest or member of a different religion
              So i wouldnt be happy if they did stick a god in there

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              • Ben says

                I think Roco summed this issue up perfectly in one of his reviews(can’t remember his exact words):

                “Whether God exists in the world of Fringe is not important. What matters is that the IDEA of God exists.”

                As a Christian, I definitely appreciate the religious themes being introduced to the show. However, I also place a lot of faith in science (one of my favourite quotes says something along the lines of “science shows us how things happen, religion shows us why”) and hence I don’t want to see the show’s scientific subject matter being compromised at the expense of abstract religious explanations.

                Hopefully in the future they can find a way to reconcile Fringe’s religious themes with its science-based issues, and everyone can be satisfied!

                Now, about that group hug around the life-sized cutout of Altlivia… :D

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    • Drenami says

      After reading 43 comments in this thread, I wonder if we could all agree that the following is an acceptable generalized definition of the ever so touchy term ~ religion:

      “The way in which we, as human beings, relate to life”

      Hasn’t Fringe always been about relationships?

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      • Cortexiphan Kid says

        Now, I have to say, I’m sorry, if I offended anyone. That was never my intention, but sometimes, I get a little caryied away.
        So, sorry.

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        • Ben says

          Cortexiphan Kid

          Don’t apologise, you’re obviously free to express your opinions! One of the things I like about this site is we can debate even touchy subjects like religion with proper respect, as opposed to say YouTube where slagging matches are pretty much inevitable.

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  7. Jen says

    My day was going pretty well, until I watched that first sneak peak and BOlivia reminded me that Alt-Lincoln “died” last week. I’ve been so busy this week that I had almost forgotten. Boo for that. But yay for a new episode this Friday! But still boo for making me cry so hard last week.

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  8. Rae says

    Walter says ‘God kills us all’ I wonder if this is a hint in that it’s really God who is Olivia’s ‘Mr. X’. Perhaps God needs Olivia to die in a manner that saves humankind. Suppose, I never thought that the Zephyr man could actually be an almighty force and not something physically substantial.

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  9. says

    Oh, please let Peter be in the episode more than just that one scene! This is a FANTASTIC opportunity for him to interact with both of his “fathers.” I’ll be so pissed if they miss this opportunity!

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  10. Ian S. says

    I don’t recall Lincoln being asked any of those questions when he crossed over in the last episode?

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      • says

        Also, when Lincoln first used the bridge it was, what a week or two after the universes were united?

        I feel that it makes sense that protocol for use of the bridge would change over time as they figure out what needs to be done for the sake of the treaty and the two universes (like, no smallpox can be brought over because people haven’t been immunized).

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        • hui says

          This makes me think about the possibility of us providing smallpox vaccine and related vaccine techniques to the other side. After all we did receive a tech from them (the dimensional rift detecting device). I hope they will mention this “trade” later.

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  11. DeepRunner says

    *Sneak Peek #1: The Rockin’ Redhead of the Redverse clamping down on the Terrible Twin, who responds with “Yeah, and?” This should be gooooood.

    * Sneak Peek #2: Walter invoking scripture. Although in season 1, he did something similar when letting Olivia into the tank.

    * Sneak Peek #3: “Several, mostly recreational.” Gotta love the sense of humor these writers have. And John Noble executes the scene perfectly.

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  12. Lafra08 says

    Oh dear God! I love this show! And I love Dr. Walter Bishop! How can someone even think of cancelling this Awesomeness!!!!!!I´m so excited for 4.18!

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  13. Cortexiphan Kid says

    On SP 1: Why does Nina think it’s going to get worse (much worse)? Is DRJ trying to cure it or destroy it? Is the healing only temporarly? Are people from Over There start to hate us again? Is Walternate going to destroy our world?

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  14. FlashWriter says

    Ahhh, just FlashWriter chiming in (at the end of 43 other comments and probably won’t get read, but what-the-heck, I’ve got to say something here). Every so often, a story comes along that just lights a light in my mind. There’s always a “bong” that goes off and I know “This is one of those! This is IT!” We’ll, gang, I’m still trying to get the ringing out of my ears. This looks so good on so many levels that I find myself tripping over myself trying to comment. So I won’t, not really. But Anna looks sooooo great in that first clip. She’s just a plain great actress. She lights up the screen. John likewise. Wow. I think this is going to be one hell of a ride!!

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