Oh my god my favourite character lincoln lee has returned, what he says what he does all serves such a great purpose, i love him, he makes fringe FRINGE. *crazy dance with pelvic thrusts*
Secondly, I think the second preview shows that they will assume that olivias dalmianos moment at the end of the last episode was just a one off caused by westfield, but this probably will be near the end of the episode.
But…. Why do I feel this is not totally ‘her’. dunno. Our Olivia would be freaked and would try to find out what happened to them all and Peter, she wouldn’t be laughing and smiling like nothing happened. I mean, come on! Why do I get the impression that our Olivia is gone for good?
Funny…
Buuuuuut… I really don’t give a sh*** about Bolivia, or Brazil or … whatever she’s called, right at this moment. My biggest complain is Olivia, who acts like she just wants her recent oh-so-lovely “dream” to become truth, like… f*** anything else, which is what irritates me about this whole thing. But, well, I’ll wait and see where this goes…
think about it. She is having these wonderful dreams in which she is happy. Wouldn’t she want them to come true? I agree with Entranda. Olivia doesn’t “remember” I think she kind of is having these memories that are more like dreams in which she didn’t actually espirience them. I think the real olivia would be freaked out and she would definatly be concerned about what happened. It doesn’t seem like her. I think she just wishes those memories were actually hers. Maybe they are who knows afterall this is fringe.
She WAS freaked out, BEFORE she remembered. Why would she be freaked by her own memories? This always was the original universe/timeline – Peter has always been “home”. We’ve been following the exact same Olivia/Walter since Peter disappeared from the bridge room, where they initially recognized and knew him. I don’t know why people suddenly thought it was a different place; of course Peter is confused but WE should know what’s going on – we’ve been watching since the start…
wow I hadn’t even thought that it may happen to Altlivia too… You’re right, that’s going to be nasty, but specially for her. Because Baby Henry wouldn’t just pop out of nowhere, so Altlivia would be remembering having a child that she doesn’t have anymore… That’s cruel! She’d experience the loss of a son… How ironic.
just a cheap way to get out of the kiss for the writers . I would have preferred for her to be all confused and to need walter’s help. poor Peter he wanted to stay. I do not like this Olivia!!! Bring our Olivia back!!! the explanation does not make sense. She kissed him b/c she thought that what “we do”? and she is not freaking out about it , but wants to rest??? huh???!!!
Our Olivia never really freaked out about anything. She would always be like – everythings going to be fine, or when she told Peter in season 2 about not telling Rachel about something because she did not want to worry her. Then Peter scolded her that that was just like her. Also when she found out Peter was with Fauxlivia and thought it was her. She did not freak out then either.
Totally agree: although, I’m not totally sure if this is our Olivia, but I don’t see her reaction as being odd or out of character per se. Remember, we only got a glimpse of Olivia happy and in love with Peter . . . now we see it and it is a wonderful thing to behold. On the other hand, I don’t know how pleased Peter is about the whole thing.
I just shrieked when I watched the 2nd preview!
Thankfully our beloved characters seem to be comming back, but I am also wondering why isn’t Olivia freaking out about all these memories
I think Olivia is not freaking out b/c in this timeline she’s more emotionally strong; also, we’re talking about an Olivia (‘our’) that is in love with Peter which means she would be happy to have him back. Also in the first episode, she said “I’ve had a hole in my life . . .” I believe she began to feel something for Peter even before the memories came back. She started to feel that this (Peter) is the hole in her life.
Look, I’m excited. I actually like this timeline’s Olivia because she’s always been “our ” Olivia without the benefit of Peter — now she has the memories as well as the good things from this current timeline. I’m lovin’ it!
I believe this will be at the end of the episode. Also, I think Peter is going to refuse this Olivia b/c he doesn’t want to believe that he is ‘home’. Wow . . . it’s going to be sad for Olivia . . . doggoneit.
Aren’t the teasers usually near the beginning? I think it’ll be near the beginning since the teaser at the end of the last ep has Peter asking Walter how she could have his Olivia’s memories. This could be the teaser that leads to that scene.
hmm ive changed my opinion about where the sneak peek where she comes round his house is, i reckon it will be towards the end of the first third of the episode, this change of opinion comes after i saw the promo pics, as peter looks (to me anyway) distinctly uncomfortable with her, and at the beginning of this peek he is not.
It’s going to be sad for Olivia? What about Peter? Why do people always ignore peters feelings and make him to be the bad guy. Peter has every right to question what’s going with Olivia and how she can have all these memories overnight. Peter is not falling for this Olivia crap again.
LOL at the look on Peter’s face when Olivia just stood at the door grinning at him
It is weird though – so at the end of the last episode, Olivia obviously thoughts she was from the old timeline (i.e just carrying on with the friday ritual like nothing was wrong)… now she realizes she’s from the new timeline but with strange memories?? When/how did this transition happen?
Well the most recently added sneek peek kinda answers my question then! She obviously is a bit confused for the time being, before she remembers everything.
As much as I’m excited about it, and believe I am, something is really strange… at the same time that she is “our” Olivia, she seems displaced, I now that this is probable the confusion of the memories, but something is really strange. Sometimes I think that Olivia be a empath, I don’t know, in a bizarre and insane way, she is entering into empathy with the our Olivia, in our timeline, you now like the quantum entanglement, or something like that. I don’t know, my brain is almost melting trying to find a plausible explanation… T.T
I like the quantum entanglement theory too. Also I am wondering if it has something to do with Walter programming the machine to link up with Peter. I know Olivia has been acting a little more used to Peter lately, but since the bio electric fix to the BBM it seems like a stronger connection. Keep in mind we still really don’t know how exactly the BBM bridged the two Universes in this timeline considering it was Peter’s doing in the old timeline. All we have are digital comics that somewhat try to explain that mystery. This could be a way of Peter calling his “Crowbar” back into being. In other words the Crowbar needs to have experienced the adult life with Peter to be able to “help” him.
Preview #2: I agree. I think this will be at the end of the episode. Doesn’t Olivia seem a little strange? It just seems she’s too calm, too smiley. I can’t put my finger on it. I guess I just expect her to more curious about the memories(asking why) then just calmly telling Peter what she remembers. Maybe it will make more sense when seen in the context of the whole episode. I also think Peter is going to push her away for awhile because he doesn’t want to believe this is his timeline. He doesn’t want to go down that same road again mistaking the wrong Olivia.
Still! Can’t wait for Friday!
Totally agree about Peter pushing her away which will be sad because she looks so damn happy.
In terms of Olivia being too calm, I don’t mind that at all. I posted above — she’s probably our Olivia with the emotional openness of this current timeline which I believe is ‘our’ timeline without the benefit of adult Peter until now.
I am so excited for Friday to arrive! I am a proud (but not obsessive) shipper and this sends me over the moon, no matter how it turns out.
It was so sad this conversation after the first non -dream Polivia kiss!…..but I understand Peter he believes these are not his Olivia and Walter and it seems he is so wrong! So painful exactly as I thought!Peter will at first reject Olivia !but what if he was all this time already home it is hard to say what is really going on?is our Olivia back ?can’t wait to find out so excited !love Fringe !
My initial thought when I saw Olivia at Peter’s house was, she looks…just a little…odd…almost eerie…but I am intrigued and want to see how it plays out. Although I previously said Peter is closer to home than he thinks, I am still not sure that this is the Olivia fans remember.
I know you all are saying that that scene must be from the end of the episode, but peter asks olivia “how you felling?” and I think that could be a follow up to the scene from the new preview, where she says she has migraines. or maybe she just keeps felling sick during the whole episode..
I believe this scene is during the show, because, from last week’s tease for this week’s episode, Peter asks Walter how Olivia can have all these memories. Sort of implies that the scene at the house, when she is reminiscing about post-6B, is before the Peter/Walter convo, doncha think?
I think the end of the episode is about Peter’s realization of Olivia’s destiny. I say this based on an interview which JJ said that Peter is going to find out about what September told Olivia about her destiny five episode down the road (after episode 8) and I assume it must episode 13.
Everybody’s saying that the 3rd preview is from the end of the episode (which is what I originally thought when watching just the promo for this episode), but would they really show a clip from the END of the episode in the sneak peeks? Does anyone remember FOX doing that before, releasing clips from the end of the ep?
a few weeks ago they showed the clip in which Olivia asked Peter about the Observers and he told her how they have already experienced the future. that was towards the end of the ep!
Totally different take on clip one. Peter and Olivia talking about the kiss. I think this is early in the episode. It would make no sense for it to be late. The kiss just happened. Plus, her hair is still up in the bun or whatever she put it in right before he got there.
So, I think Peter is going to be keeping a closer eye on Olive(ia) because of what happened. In doing so, he’ll stumble upon Nina doing her thing to Olivia and then IT WILL BE ON!
When clip 3 started i was like damn this reminds me of season 3 episode ’6b’ and i was thinking she was gonna pull out a bottle of bourbon from her coat. Then she starts recalling those memories. Its going to be interesting because i agree with DeepRunners comments that she looked a little errieee so maybe it is the cortixphan that is bringing on these memories.
Sh*t…..it’s too early!, the agony!…more than 44 hours until Friday?…ugh
I’m afraid for Olive, I just keep thinking about those season promo photos and it seems that Olivia is constructing this time line and it looks like Walter and Peter are trying to step in into her reality…(the deconstructionism chaos photos). And if that’s the case, maybe the impending death is that of Olive’s mind…that she can’t hold that many realities at once…oh sh*t I hate this! and I love this!, and I hate this!…darn! I need a season 5 confirmation right now Fringe!
I agree with this as well. I think this is our Olivia and I do not think she is acting out of character for the situation. We have never really seen this situation before in this way so we really do not know how she would normally act.
1st: The first scene where Peter asks Olivia why she kissed him is immediately following the last scene of last week. Olivia is in the same clothes with her hair up the same way in the same bun thing. Peter is in the same clothes too.
2nd: When Nina’s minions came in and dosed Olivia, before, they said something to the effect of she was going to have one hell of a headache when she wakes up.
3rd: When Olivia tells Peter that she needs some time to herself she says that she thinks she has another migraine coming on.
Nina got there before Peter and dosed her. After Nina dosed her, she thought she was Peter’s Olivia and ordered Damiano’s (love that name) and got ready for Peter to come over for their routine. I think this is the closest reasoning we have to Nina and the Cortexiphan having something to do with this change in this Olivia. Are these changes expected by Nina and Jones? We dont know that yet. They are more likley after the other abilities detailed by the ZFT.
Excellent point about the Cortexiphan – doesn’t seem too far fetched to think it could make her able to remember stuff from the other timeline. I also thought that it was too much to have Nina understand the whole picture. But your explanation makes perfect sense. And I gotta admit, it is past time for some telekinetic ass-kicking. C’mon, Olive!
“I think this is the closest reasoning we have to Nina and the Cortexiphan having something to do with this change in this Olivia.”
I’m not yet convinced that Olivia remembering her life with Peter is a result of the Cortexiphan. I’ve posted a similar post in a previous article but I think Olivia’s memories is a result of Peter’s continuing “bleeding through” (September’s words). If it was the Cortexiphan then Walter shouldn’t be becoming more like our old Walter…but he is. He hasn’t been dosed with Cortexiphan.
I think (at this point) that Olivia’s memories are a result of Peter being in this timeline and the “bleeding” flood gates have opened. Peter’s presence is causing the timeline (including those in it) to become more like it was before when he was in the timeline. I think the intended results of the Cortexiphan have yet to be discovered.
Agree, I think cortexiphan is connected to DRJ and Nina while Peter presence starts to influence both NewLivia and NewWalter… or better all the new timeline.
Yes. I will be disappointed if it only affects Olivia and Walter (although it will clearly affect them the most). It should affect everyone.
I know I am in the minority here but I can’t wait to see how it affects Altlivia…she is one of my favorite characters. Also the difference between the newAltliva and the oldAltlvia seem pretty substantial.
But remember…although it is true that migraines are a side effect of Cortexi-dosing, Olivia’s memories returning have been preceded by headaches before – cue to Sam Weiss: “Have the headaches started yet?… They will.”
I have always believed that Peter is “home” and this Olivia is HIS Olivia, only with no memories of him. But now that she’s starting to remember (triggered by Peter bleeding through), we are now set to see another permutation of her character; a fusion of two version of her blue verse self: Olivia from the timeline with Peter who is strong & emotionally guarded and the Olivia in the timeline w/o Peter who’s strong yet emotionally open. The title “a better human being” could be pertaining to this “new” Olivia.
so does this mean she is three people rolled into one? She has the memories, qualities, and expiriences of her life plus her other timeline life in addition to the memories of alt-livia’s life.
OK, I have a hunch that Peter and Olivia, after dodging the car at the storage facility, will end up a lot closer than they have been. I think the romance-meter will be moving toward the red zone, and Peter will be fighting it.
Here’s one memory that would be interesting for Olivia to have, and really, a memory correction: That she came back from Over There, after Peter had been in her head for that time. And the discovery that Peter was with Fauxlivia.
No, not really. I don’t think Olivia ever hated Peter because of Fauxlivia. I think she was hurt, yes, but as AltAstrid said, hurt and unhappiness come because of emotional investment, and Olivia very much liked (and likes) Peter and wanted (and wants) to be with him.
One of the producers said in an interview a while back, I think, that Peter and Olivia were star-crossed, and that every epic love story has lots of bends in the road.
But, no, I don’t want Olivia to hate Peter. I am glad her memory is coming back, if this really is the Olivia people remember.
I know I am waiting for that also. if you remember the nice times you also have to remember the bad times right? unless somebody is controlling what gets remembered??!!
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Oh my god my favourite character lincoln lee has returned, what he says what he does all serves such a great purpose, i love him, he makes fringe FRINGE. *crazy dance with pelvic thrusts*
Secondly, I think the second preview shows that they will assume that olivias dalmianos moment at the end of the last episode was just a one off caused by westfield, but this probably will be near the end of the episode.
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LMAO
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I <3 LINCOLN!
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Lincoln? REE-LEE?
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Not at the end, pleeease! First scene!!! Let it be at the beginning of the episode… We’ve been waiting for such a long time!
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JM, I can just picture you going completely mental like Ed Grimley. lol !!
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Sometimes Sneak Peeks make me wanna banging my head against the wall… It’s Friday already?????
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I know what you mean.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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So, does Olivia’s cortexipowers in this timeline make her jump timelines instead of universes?
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So She’s back and she’s horny. Okay….
But…. Why do I feel this is not totally ‘her’. dunno. Our Olivia would be freaked and would try to find out what happened to them all and Peter, she wouldn’t be laughing and smiling like nothing happened. I mean, come on! Why do I get the impression that our Olivia is gone for good?
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Just wait till it happens to Bolivia. Peter is going to have his hands full.
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Funny…
Buuuuuut… I really don’t give a sh*** about Bolivia, or Brazil or … whatever she’s called, right at this moment. My biggest complain is Olivia, who acts like she just wants her recent oh-so-lovely “dream” to become truth, like… f*** anything else, which is what irritates me about this whole thing. But, well, I’ll wait and see where this goes…
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think about it. She is having these wonderful dreams in which she is happy. Wouldn’t she want them to come true? I agree with Entranda. Olivia doesn’t “remember” I think she kind of is having these memories that are more like dreams in which she didn’t actually espirience them. I think the real olivia would be freaked out and she would definatly be concerned about what happened. It doesn’t seem like her. I think she just wishes those memories were actually hers. Maybe they are who knows afterall this is fringe.
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She WAS freaked out, BEFORE she remembered. Why would she be freaked by her own memories? This always was the original universe/timeline – Peter has always been “home”. We’ve been following the exact same Olivia/Walter since Peter disappeared from the bridge room, where they initially recognized and knew him. I don’t know why people suddenly thought it was a different place; of course Peter is confused but WE should know what’s going on – we’ve been watching since the start…
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wow I hadn’t even thought that it may happen to Altlivia too… You’re right, that’s going to be nasty, but specially for her. Because Baby Henry wouldn’t just pop out of nowhere, so Altlivia would be remembering having a child that she doesn’t have anymore… That’s cruel! She’d experience the loss of a son… How ironic.
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I think we are getting some of this, b/c they show baby henry in the answers clip.
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Are you kidding me? Is it Friday yet!? This wait is gonna be too long!!
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just a cheap way to get out of the kiss for the writers . I would have preferred for her to be all confused and to need walter’s help. poor Peter he wanted to stay. I do not like this Olivia!!! Bring our Olivia back!!! the explanation does not make sense. She kissed him b/c she thought that what “we do”? and she is not freaking out about it , but wants to rest??? huh???!!!
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Our Olivia never really freaked out about anything. She would always be like – everythings going to be fine, or when she told Peter in season 2 about not telling Rachel about something because she did not want to worry her. Then Peter scolded her that that was just like her. Also when she found out Peter was with Fauxlivia and thought it was her. She did not freak out then either.
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Totally agree: although, I’m not totally sure if this is our Olivia, but I don’t see her reaction as being odd or out of character per se. Remember, we only got a glimpse of Olivia happy and in love with Peter . . . now we see it and it is a wonderful thing to behold. On the other hand, I don’t know how pleased Peter is about the whole thing.
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I think we are seeing the “transition Olivia”…the one that is all mess up?…lol, poor girl!
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I just shrieked when I watched the 2nd preview!
Thankfully our beloved characters seem to be comming back, but I am also wondering why isn’t Olivia freaking out about all these memories
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I’m also happy, but she’s acting strange, that’s for sure… She’s not OurLivia, nor AmberLivia, nor both – but neither…? Neither here nor there…
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Although I hope this is not the case… It could be just this scene – it’s a bit weird, I think. Let’s wait for the whole episode…
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Can we call her amblivia? As in amblivant, amber Olivia. It’s cute right?
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Yes, funny and cute
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I think Olivia is not freaking out b/c in this timeline she’s more emotionally strong; also, we’re talking about an Olivia (‘our’) that is in love with Peter which means she would be happy to have him back. Also in the first episode, she said “I’ve had a hole in my life . . .” I believe she began to feel something for Peter even before the memories came back. She started to feel that this (Peter) is the hole in her life.
Look, I’m excited. I actually like this timeline’s Olivia because she’s always been “our ” Olivia without the benefit of Peter — now she has the memories as well as the good things from this current timeline. I’m lovin’ it!
I believe this will be at the end of the episode. Also, I think Peter is going to refuse this Olivia b/c he doesn’t want to believe that he is ‘home’. Wow . . . it’s going to be sad for Olivia . . . doggoneit.
Just sayin . . .
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well said
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Aren’t the teasers usually near the beginning? I think it’ll be near the beginning since the teaser at the end of the last ep has Peter asking Walter how she could have his Olivia’s memories. This could be the teaser that leads to that scene.
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hmm ive changed my opinion about where the sneak peek where she comes round his house is, i reckon it will be towards the end of the first third of the episode, this change of opinion comes after i saw the promo pics, as peter looks (to me anyway) distinctly uncomfortable with her, and at the beginning of this peek he is not.
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It’s going to be sad for Olivia? What about Peter? Why do people always ignore peters feelings and make him to be the bad guy. Peter has every right to question what’s going with Olivia and how she can have all these memories overnight. Peter is not falling for this Olivia crap again.
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LOL at the look on Peter’s face when Olivia just stood at the door grinning at him
It is weird though – so at the end of the last episode, Olivia obviously thoughts she was from the old timeline (i.e just carrying on with the friday ritual like nothing was wrong)… now she realizes she’s from the new timeline but with strange memories?? When/how did this transition happen?
Friday can’t come quick enough!!!
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Well the most recently added sneek peek kinda answers my question then! She obviously is a bit confused for the time being, before she remembers everything.
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As much as I’m excited about it, and believe I am, something is really strange… at the same time that she is “our” Olivia, she seems displaced, I now that this is probable the confusion of the memories, but something is really strange. Sometimes I think that Olivia be a empath, I don’t know, in a bizarre and insane way, she is entering into empathy with the our Olivia, in our timeline, you now like the quantum entanglement, or something like that. I don’t know, my brain is almost melting trying to find a plausible explanation… T.T
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I like the quantum entanglement theory too. Also I am wondering if it has something to do with Walter programming the machine to link up with Peter. I know Olivia has been acting a little more used to Peter lately, but since the bio electric fix to the BBM it seems like a stronger connection. Keep in mind we still really don’t know how exactly the BBM bridged the two Universes in this timeline considering it was Peter’s doing in the old timeline. All we have are digital comics that somewhat try to explain that mystery. This could be a way of Peter calling his “Crowbar” back into being. In other words the Crowbar needs to have experienced the adult life with Peter to be able to “help” him.
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Preview #2: I agree. I think this will be at the end of the episode. Doesn’t Olivia seem a little strange? It just seems she’s too calm, too smiley. I can’t put my finger on it. I guess I just expect her to more curious about the memories(asking why) then just calmly telling Peter what she remembers. Maybe it will make more sense when seen in the context of the whole episode. I also think Peter is going to push her away for awhile because he doesn’t want to believe this is his timeline. He doesn’t want to go down that same road again mistaking the wrong Olivia.
Still! Can’t wait for Friday!
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Totally agree about Peter pushing her away which will be sad because she looks so damn happy.
In terms of Olivia being too calm, I don’t mind that at all. I posted above — she’s probably our Olivia with the emotional openness of this current timeline which I believe is ‘our’ timeline without the benefit of adult Peter until now.
I am so excited for Friday to arrive! I am a proud (but not obsessive) shipper and this sends me over the moon, no matter how it turns out.
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It was so sad this conversation after the first non -dream Polivia kiss!…..but I understand Peter he believes these are not his Olivia and Walter and it seems he is so wrong! So painful exactly as I thought!Peter will at first reject Olivia !but what if he was all this time already home it is hard to say what is really going on?is our Olivia back ?can’t wait to find out so excited !love Fringe !
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My initial thought when I saw Olivia at Peter’s house was, she looks…just a little…odd…almost eerie…but I am intrigued and want to see how it plays out. Although I previously said Peter is closer to home than he thinks, I am still not sure that this is the Olivia fans remember.
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I know you all are saying that that scene must be from the end of the episode, but peter asks olivia “how you felling?” and I think that could be a follow up to the scene from the new preview, where she says she has migraines. or maybe she just keeps felling sick during the whole episode..
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I believe this scene is during the show, because, from last week’s tease for this week’s episode, Peter asks Walter how Olivia can have all these memories. Sort of implies that the scene at the house, when she is reminiscing about post-6B, is before the Peter/Walter convo, doncha think?
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It’s maybe SPOILERY. so BE CAREFUL :
I think the end of the episode is about Peter’s realization of Olivia’s destiny. I say this based on an interview which JJ said that Peter is going to find out about what September told Olivia about her destiny five episode down the road (after episode 8) and I assume it must episode 13.
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…after episode 8 and I assume it must be episode 13
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Yes DeepRunner I agree with you!
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Everybody’s saying that the 3rd preview is from the end of the episode (which is what I originally thought when watching just the promo for this episode), but would they really show a clip from the END of the episode in the sneak peeks? Does anyone remember FOX doing that before, releasing clips from the end of the ep?
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a few weeks ago they showed the clip in which Olivia asked Peter about the Observers and he told her how they have already experienced the future. that was towards the end of the ep!
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Loved Olivia’s laugh in preview 1 put a smile on my face….
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Totally different take on clip one. Peter and Olivia talking about the kiss. I think this is early in the episode. It would make no sense for it to be late. The kiss just happened. Plus, her hair is still up in the bun or whatever she put it in right before he got there.
So, I think Peter is going to be keeping a closer eye on Olive(ia) because of what happened. In doing so, he’ll stumble upon Nina doing her thing to Olivia and then IT WILL BE ON!
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When clip 3 started i was like damn this reminds me of season 3 episode ’6b’ and i was thinking she was gonna pull out a bottle of bourbon from her coat. Then she starts recalling those memories. Its going to be interesting because i agree with DeepRunners comments that she looked a little errieee so maybe it is the cortixphan that is bringing on these memories.
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Maybe there’s a connection between the migraines and the memories? Maybe Nina knows more than we think….
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Sh*t…..it’s too early!, the agony!…more than 44 hours until Friday?…ugh
I’m afraid for Olive, I just keep thinking about those season promo photos and it seems that Olivia is constructing this time line and it looks like Walter and Peter are trying to step in into her reality…(the deconstructionism chaos photos). And if that’s the case, maybe the impending death is that of Olive’s mind…that she can’t hold that many realities at once…oh sh*t I hate this! and I love this!, and I hate this!…darn! I need a season 5 confirmation right now Fringe!
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“…oh sh*t I hate this! and I love this!, and I hate this!…darn! I need a season 5 confirmation right now Fringe!”
Could not say it any better!
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Hot damn! I’m loving this. So glad to see Olivia happy and remembering. To those who think she is acting strange…. I don’t think so.
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I agree with this as well. I think this is our Olivia and I do not think she is acting out of character for the situation. We have never really seen this situation before in this way so we really do not know how she would normally act.
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OK! Follow the timeline here….
1st: The first scene where Peter asks Olivia why she kissed him is immediately following the last scene of last week. Olivia is in the same clothes with her hair up the same way in the same bun thing. Peter is in the same clothes too.
2nd: When Nina’s minions came in and dosed Olivia, before, they said something to the effect of she was going to have one hell of a headache when she wakes up.
3rd: When Olivia tells Peter that she needs some time to herself she says that she thinks she has another migraine coming on.
Nina got there before Peter and dosed her. After Nina dosed her, she thought she was Peter’s Olivia and ordered Damiano’s (love that name) and got ready for Peter to come over for their routine. I think this is the closest reasoning we have to Nina and the Cortexiphan having something to do with this change in this Olivia. Are these changes expected by Nina and Jones? We dont know that yet. They are more likley after the other abilities detailed by the ZFT.
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Excellent point about the Cortexiphan – doesn’t seem too far fetched to think it could make her able to remember stuff from the other timeline. I also thought that it was too much to have Nina understand the whole picture. But your explanation makes perfect sense. And I gotta admit, it is past time for some telekinetic ass-kicking. C’mon, Olive!
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“I think this is the closest reasoning we have to Nina and the Cortexiphan having something to do with this change in this Olivia.”
I’m not yet convinced that Olivia remembering her life with Peter is a result of the Cortexiphan. I’ve posted a similar post in a previous article but I think Olivia’s memories is a result of Peter’s continuing “bleeding through” (September’s words). If it was the Cortexiphan then Walter shouldn’t be becoming more like our old Walter…but he is. He hasn’t been dosed with Cortexiphan.
I think (at this point) that Olivia’s memories are a result of Peter being in this timeline and the “bleeding” flood gates have opened. Peter’s presence is causing the timeline (including those in it) to become more like it was before when he was in the timeline. I think the intended results of the Cortexiphan have yet to be discovered.
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Agree, I think cortexiphan is connected to DRJ and Nina while Peter presence starts to influence both NewLivia and NewWalter… or better all the new timeline.
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Yes. I will be disappointed if it only affects Olivia and Walter (although it will clearly affect them the most). It should affect everyone.
I know I am in the minority here but I can’t wait to see how it affects Altlivia…she is one of my favorite characters. Also the difference between the newAltliva and the oldAltlvia seem pretty substantial.
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Not to mention the Walternates!
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But remember…although it is true that migraines are a side effect of Cortexi-dosing, Olivia’s memories returning have been preceded by headaches before – cue to Sam Weiss: “Have the headaches started yet?… They will.”
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So apparently Walter tripped with Tim Leary back in his Harvard days!!!
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Peter: maybe i should stay here for a while… in your bed….naked…
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Olivia : I’m fine. Honestly I think what I need is just some rest and have some dreams!
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Roco, now this is a shout out for how much we miss the Fringe Caps.
Please reconsider bringing them back.
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Yea Roco!, Lately we’ve been having lots of funny stuff to Fringecap about…
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LOL . . .
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I have always believed that Peter is “home” and this Olivia is HIS Olivia, only with no memories of him. But now that she’s starting to remember (triggered by Peter bleeding through), we are now set to see another permutation of her character; a fusion of two version of her blue verse self: Olivia from the timeline with Peter who is strong & emotionally guarded and the Olivia in the timeline w/o Peter who’s strong yet emotionally open. The title “a better human being” could be pertaining to this “new” Olivia.
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so does this mean she is three people rolled into one? She has the memories, qualities, and expiriences of her life plus her other timeline life in addition to the memories of alt-livia’s life.
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I see Lincoln’s back. Boo.
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OK, I have a hunch that Peter and Olivia, after dodging the car at the storage facility, will end up a lot closer than they have been. I think the romance-meter will be moving toward the red zone, and Peter will be fighting it.
Here’s one memory that would be interesting for Olivia to have, and really, a memory correction: That she came back from Over There, after Peter had been in her head for that time. And the discovery that Peter was with Fauxlivia.
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Oh yeah, let’s make Olivia hate Peter all over again, is that it?
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No, not really. I don’t think Olivia ever hated Peter because of Fauxlivia. I think she was hurt, yes, but as AltAstrid said, hurt and unhappiness come because of emotional investment, and Olivia very much liked (and likes) Peter and wanted (and wants) to be with him.
One of the producers said in an interview a while back, I think, that Peter and Olivia were star-crossed, and that every epic love story has lots of bends in the road.
But, no, I don’t want Olivia to hate Peter. I am glad her memory is coming back, if this really is the Olivia people remember.
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I know I am waiting for that also. if you remember the nice times you also have to remember the bad times right? unless somebody is controlling what gets remembered??!!
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i, too,think this has something to do with evil nina’s treatments. if there is one jones is there one nina? we’ve never seen evidence otherwise.
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