FRINGE 4.07 Wallflower — Ratings

by Roco on November 19, 2011 · 41 comments

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The preliminary ratings are in for Fringe 4.07 “Wallflower” — but how did the episode do in the numbers game?

Fringe was steady on last week’s episode with a 1.1 in adults 18-49 rating. We’ll have to wait until next year to see if Fringe can get back on track in the battle with the Ratings Dragon.

Fringe Season 4 Ratings So Far:
4.07 — 2.87 million | 1.1 adults 18-49 (prelim)
4.06 —  3.03 million | 1.1 adults 18-49 (final)
4.05 — 3.21 million | 1.3 adults 18-49 (final)
4.04 — 3.14 million | 1.2 adults 18-49 (final)
4.03 — 3.18 million | 1.3 adults 18-49 (final)
4.02 — 3.05 million | 1.2 adults 18-49 (final)
4.01 — 3.5 million | 1.5 adults 18-49 (final)

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JM November 19, 2011 at 1:26 pm

2 series low’s in a row :( !

But unfortunately in either case, this is a truly shocking rating

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Observer1 November 19, 2011 at 1:27 pm

Hey: at least it’s steady.
It is what it is people, don’t let your head hang over these numbers, just enjoy the show :)
We all know Fringe deserves better and if we (as fans and Fringies) go down every week over something we cannot change, it’s just a shame and waste of time.
Just enjoy and dicuss the show, support the actors everywhere you can and keep lending out those dvd’s! :)

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Con November 19, 2011 at 2:14 pm

Thank you! I’m tired of hearing people talk about Fringe like this is the final season and it’s a foregone conclusion already. With that attitude, yes, it will be. OR we can keep watching, keep spreading the word, and keep showing Fox our support for the show.

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FringeFriday November 19, 2011 at 2:44 pm

Honestly I am always curious about the comments of the others here, but since the season started you hardly read good comments. everyone is expecting more and more of the “old” storyline and the “old” character. Is no one interested in where the story goes from the end of S3? We only had 7 episodes so far and everyone says the season sucks and they want to quit watching Fringe.
I, too, missed Peter and I still do, but I am willing to let the writers tell their story and WAIT for the storyline to unfold itself.

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Christopher R. Cook November 19, 2011 at 3:00 pm

That’s what we’ve been doing, and the numbers keep dropping. The Nielsen rating is steady, but the number in millions is not, and I dreaded the day that that would fall below three-million viewers. The only reason that the Nielsen is steady is because the drop in millions fell within the same range, but we’ll be looking at a 0.9 or 1.0 very soon if that number continues to drop. We’re getting the word out, trying to encourage people to watch live, and the numbers continue to drop; it’s frustrating. Why can’t I just sit back and enjoy instead of worrying? Well, because I want the ending of this show to be satisfying, and I know that it won’t be if this show doesn’t get a fifth or a sixth season. If it ends in May, the “alternate timeline” will most likely be tied up, but next to nothing else will be. It will be LOST season 6 all over again, and that knew that it was going after season 6 very, very early on. It would be an utter tragedy if this show ended prematurely, and so, of course, I’m worried.

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FringeFriday November 19, 2011 at 3:15 pm

Then I guess I am the only one not being worried…

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Kai November 19, 2011 at 3:37 pm

Why are you not worried? Everyone else is shaking in their pants,what is wrong with you lol..

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FringeFriday November 19, 2011 at 3:45 pm

I am a pessimist in life but an optimist when it comes to Fringe !!! ;)

I remember in May when Fringe got renewed everyone was like “look at the ratings, they’re gonna cancel it!” and they didn’t.

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Mike November 19, 2011 at 1:34 pm

^ That’s the spirit. :)

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Isa November 19, 2011 at 1:37 pm

To be honest, after I saw the episode I was afraid it would be even worse. At least it’s steady.

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Sean November 19, 2011 at 1:57 pm

Man… I’m still disappointed. When I clicked on over here I had my fingers crossed hoping for good news, since we were able to take the #1 spot on GetGlue, but… ugh. Well, the promo for the next episode was strong, so… here’s hoping.

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Coeur November 19, 2011 at 2:00 pm

My heart is broken :( I don’t think I’m strong enough for the news that will come in late March.

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FringeFriday November 19, 2011 at 2:22 pm

After all the negative comments on this episode I guess there are enough people out there that liked the episode considering the ratings.

Next episode will spike the ratings again, just look at the amazing preview!

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MISSNETT November 19, 2011 at 2:26 pm

Lets be positive! At least it was steady. I think the ratings will go up in January when the story really gets going. David Robert Jones! Enough said!

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Schwakamole November 19, 2011 at 2:35 pm

The only folks that are being negative about the shows this season are the ones who truly LOVE the show and were only hoping for more from the writers. To new viewers this episode was still everything that Fringe started out to be, a fringe event case with some emotional character development. If you’re new to the show, and thus not expecting HUGE things from the writers, then you’ll either like this brand of TV or you won’t. I think the numbers we’re seeing are the core fans and they will stick by it no matter what.

And overall, these aren’t horrible ratings for a Friday night. The highest rating on Friday night at this timeslot was 1.6. This is not MILES above where Fringe is. If other shows were garnering a 5 or something, then maybe we’d be worried. But I think Fringe is right in there with the rest of the shows on Friday night. Friday nights are just bad TV nights in general. But Fringe always makes it up in the DVR nubmers.

I’m so not worried.

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JM November 19, 2011 at 2:36 pm

Correct me if wrong but blue bloods (CBS) is in the timeslot and scored a 2.0 and won the night?

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Schwakamole November 19, 2011 at 2:42 pm

Yes, you’re right but that was not during Fringe’s timeslot. Even so, 2.0 is not that huge of a ratings distance…in my opinion.

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JM November 19, 2011 at 2:58 pm

:/ i guess not… well fringe would never get as high a viewership as a police procedural anyway

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Sad November 19, 2011 at 4:17 pm

Fringe doesn’t even achieve 2.0 with DVR….and people always say “DVR is so good”…

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James November 19, 2011 at 3:49 pm

Guys, we are thinking of starting a campaign during the break to persuade Fox not to cancel the show, like the campaign earlier this year before we got the renewal news.

If you’d like to put forward ideas, please come here:

http://fringe-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?11815-Ideas-On-How-We-Can-Persuade-Fox-Not-To-Cancel&p=344084#post344084

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Observer1 November 20, 2011 at 4:24 am

As i stated on Twitter, i suggest that all of us Fringies make a creative video of hów important Fringe is to us in our daily lives.
Dress up as a character, act ‘Fringe’ in your daily live, host a ‘Fringe’ party and record it, do a Fringe fireworks at new years eve, you name it.
Make a creative video and title it ‘Fringe4Me’, so that TPTB can easily find them all on youtube.
If you want to get into action these few weeks during lowatus, then make a video and show TPTB hów much a Fringie you are in daily live.
I’m sure mr. Kevin Reilly will appreciate all our creative efforts :)

Make it so!

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James November 20, 2011 at 12:11 pm

That’d be a fantastic idea! Please post in the thread!

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ObservetteMARCH November 21, 2011 at 1:04 am

^^
This is definitely a GREAT idea. I’m gonna do one. Make sure the word about this gets spread. Everybody please participate and spread the word! ‘Fringe4Me’ Now, where’s my camcorder?

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hal November 19, 2011 at 4:26 pm

it wasnt a very good episode..so this doesnt surprise me. before the intro credits rolled, i was..rolling.. (my eyes?)

but still, i dont think its the last season. only stupid loser-faces would believe such a thing. that’s right.

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Maria Helena November 24, 2011 at 1:04 pm

well, we don’t believe its the last season…we are AFRAID this could be the last season…

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salary versus ratings November 19, 2011 at 4:42 pm

can somebody please answer my question????

i always wondered if the actors get paid less now , because of the ratings?

when fringe had 10 million viewers in the beginning, i assume the actors got a big paycheck.

but what if there are only 3 million viewers waching fringe, does that influence their paycheck?

and if so, isnt that hard and unmotivating for the actors?

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The Watcher November 19, 2011 at 5:20 pm

Ratings have to do with if the show can sell ad space for large revenue. The actors never see a dime of it, they are paid a set salary and if the ratings tank it probably means the network will have issues selling ad space and hence then ending of shows when ratings tank.

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Mancha November 19, 2011 at 5:30 pm

Well I’m not giving up yet! I’m gonna buy as much Red Vines as I can get my hands on and send them to FOX to let them know that fans are still hanging on and love the show to pieces! We need to keep our hopes high people! Don’t give up yet!

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Tabularasa November 19, 2011 at 7:57 pm

Fringe is also the most DVR’d show. The fact is the show is on Fridays and there’s not a lot of people that are staying home to watch TV on Fridays. Didn’t Breaking Dawn come out Friday? I know that draws a lot of people.

Fringe isn’t the only FOX show to go down. The smash hit Glee has been doing poorly this year too. They put a lot of money into The X-Factor and Terra Nova and they have not succeeded on the expectations. It’s a dangerous time for all the Fox shows.

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Mike Mike November 19, 2011 at 8:07 pm

I don’t think anyone needs to be truly concerned until Fringe gets down to 1.0 or 0.9. At 0.9 no show will survive, doesn’t matter what it is.

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Red Balloon November 19, 2011 at 9:57 pm

I agree, and I will add some good news, at least that’s how I see it, because I don’t think it will get to this:

Following the trending that last season had in its average loosing viewers, both in the key demo and the SD+7 factored in…it ended averaging -1.8% less viewers in the 18-49 demo and -1.6% less viewers in the SD+7…

So, if we follow that trending (and we’ve been the same for the first 7 episodes so far in both demos)…we would have to do a 0.8 in the next episode, and all 0.7 for the rest of the season until may to achieve those averages in loosing viewers in the 18-49 demo, and a 1.8 in the SD+7 demo.

…THAT’S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!…we still have time to show them that we are an OUT OF CONTEXT FAN BASE…that they cannot put THIS FAN BASE into statistical averages as easily as any other show

In January 2010 we had an improvement of 22% (still on Thursdays)
In January 2011 we had an improvement of 12% (on Fridays)

Next ep. will be at at least 10% up, that’s 1.2, and if we can keep at 1.1 and the same improvement in the DVR numbers (+0.8)… they will notice that at least they didn’t lost viewers from season to season, and maybe that will be enough for an additional season 5 renewal with 13 episodes.

I’m hoping for this numbers at least….because overall Fringe has demonstrated that it’s still way better than any other show right now, and have no doubts about its payoff at the end of the series.

Sorry for the boring post, but I had this numbers in my mind and wanted to share them with you.

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Lara November 20, 2011 at 2:49 am

Nows the time to really vote till we drop for Fringe to win at Peoples Choice in January. I think it helped last year when it won and we got a fourth season. If Fox sees how loyal fans are we’re sure to get a renewal its not impossible. Vote Vote Vote and spread the word!!

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Liz November 20, 2011 at 11:06 am

When will the news of scheduling/’cancellation’ (I hate to say this word) come out?

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janenutshell November 20, 2011 at 11:17 am

It wasn’t a great episode in my opinion. I was really excited for this one. I was disappointed. It looks like good things are coming after the break. I sure hope so.

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Vitor November 20, 2011 at 5:01 pm

The only thing I hope is that Fringe can have their story told as the creators have made sure that it is an excellent story, and it would be bad if they can not finish ….

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GFS November 20, 2011 at 10:02 pm

worst case, maybe fox can take it off television proper and make it a “netflix exclusive” like they are considering with the comeback of arrested development. i bet netflix would love to have a stable of exclusive programming to lure in new customers.

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David November 20, 2011 at 10:48 pm

Let’s face it, programs like fringe always live on the edge, so it doesn’t surprise me that Fringe is once again straddling the renewed/ cancellation fence.
My only hope is that we can as true fans of this wonderfully unique show can once again came to the fore when it counts and convince those powers to be at Fox that this show deserves to be given at least another season to give us an ending that will not only satsify us fans but also the hard working and talented cast & crew of this terrific show.
I think we the fans, writers, cast & crew at least deserve that, Fox

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ObservetteMARCH November 21, 2011 at 1:20 am

I agree. Everyone is just sooooo negative. We’ve only seen 7 episodes and there’s been no indication from FOX or the show runners that we should panic. I think we need to be supportive, instead of saying that the episode/episodes sucked so no wonder the ratings are dropping. We the fans are the biggest reason Fringe has been such a success and if we start complaining about the story then the show really won’t stand a chance. Please support the show everyone…trust the writers, they haven’t let us down in the past an I believe that they won’t in the future. Hang in there everyone, please. Support Fringe! Don’t winge!

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ellen November 21, 2011 at 4:08 am

Everyone I’ve introduced to the show is hooked and they’re all busy watching past seasons of DVD to catch up. None of us (me included) are sci-fi fans, but there’s something engrossing about the show, particularly when one can watch successive episodes in a row.

At any rate, it’s too bad the TV ratings count for so much because I imagine Fringe has strong ancillary value.

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Red Balloon November 21, 2011 at 11:58 pm

For all those who watch Grimm…NBC is giving it a Thursday trial on Dec 8…

I hope you watch and give it a high score so that Fridays become a little bit easier for Fringe ;)

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Maria Helena November 24, 2011 at 12:54 pm

I don’t think Fox wants fringe to succeed. Friday nights?! Really?! People nowadays don’t like it when they have to think. They prefer those series that are about nothing but ordinary life. If fringe were about how far Olivia has to walk to find a restaurant they would like it better. I’m a huge fan of science fiction, but real ones, like fringe, and it makes me sad to think this could be the last seasonl.

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